SmittyFL Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 I guess that loss of blood at Tennessee must have hurt your survival skills Smitty.Do you realize the arrows that are headed your way Incoming!!!!!! Gary I typed that post twice and then deleted it both times. A bud and I were talking about it the other day and decided that those three cover all types of guns. I don't think they'd ever get rid of Limited, nor do I want them to. But those three divisions are really all you need. After Tenn, I think I'd rather be hit with an arrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxD Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 Why not?Think of all the GSSF'ers and LEO's that would run to our doors. Great idea! Then we could add the "Contender Division". That would really test those reloading skills, and all those old IHMSA guys would be flocking in. Then there's the ".17HMR Division". The "Daisy BB Division". And of course, for all those countries that can't have guns; The "Airsoft Division". In the "Watergun Divison" we could have major and minor power factor with a bulb gun side match. The possibilites are endless. USPSA= Anyone Can Play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vluc Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 ....with the XD divisision and the Beretta Division...heck, let's get a miscellaneous one as well for those really funky pistols that pop up now and then. Short dustcover, long dustcover, stainless, hard chromed, beaver-tail, no beaver-tail.... stop the insanity....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chriss Grube Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 Now come on if I pay a hundred bucks to shoot a match with a gun that I know is not competitive because technology has passed it by I STILL WANT MY TROPHY! Damn it make a division for my gun or I'll cry and go home and I don't care if the Canadians have found a way around the 10 round limit problem. I live in the USA, the land of the free, and if my state tells me only X rounds well then you better make a division just for me. Don't tell me to spend a hundred bucks and buy real mags for out of state matches that's just not fair. You must all suffer the watered down competition and reload more so I can play damn it! I'm leaving and going to the range to show the guys my shiny new trophy for being the best Open, 8 round only, no optic, but with comp while wearing a blue shirt and green socks trophy I won at the last match. Geez, they'll be impressed and I'll be their hero! See you suckers later, maybe next time you'll win a trophy too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric nielsen Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?...l=single-action Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chriss Grube Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 Come on guys you haven't locked this thread yet you're starting to scare me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Orr Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 "Daisy BB Division". Low cost division fer shur..... My little secret - I still have - and shoot BB guns. Got at least a dozen.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeInNePa Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 Now come on if I pay a hundred bucks to shoot a match with a gun that I know is not competitive because technology has passed it by I STILL WANT MY TROPHY! Damn it make a division for my gun or I'll cry and go home and I don't care if the Canadians have found a way around the 10 round limit problem. I live in the USA, the land of the free, and if my state tells me only X rounds well then you better make a division just for me. Don't tell me to spend a hundred bucks and buy real mags for out of state matches that's just not fair. You must all suffer the watered down competition and reload more so I can play damn it! I'm leaving and going to the range to show the guys my shiny new trophy for being the best Open, 8 round only, no optic, but with comp while wearing a blue shirt and green socks trophy I won at the last match. Geez, they'll be impressed and I'll be their hero! See you suckers later, maybe next time you'll win a trophy too! Good to see you back Chrisssss. Getting the itch again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 Chris and Alan You two win best posts so far in this thread. Alan i totally agree with you. Run what you brung winner is the winner. Chris you get to the point, the divisions are getting assinine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Moneypenny Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 Dang chris are you drunk. i don't remember you being this funny Gary. Springfield is making a glock as does S&W, and Kahr we are getting closer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Kline Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 OK Flex, you can have your Glock Only division as soon as I get my "Tall-bald-old-fat-slow-ugly-middle aged-astigmatic-two left feet" category. I thought that was "senior"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chriss Grube Posted December 18, 2005 Share Posted December 18, 2005 No Not Drunk. Just spent to much time away from shooting. Like George said getting that itch again and don't want to see the sport destroyed by people trying to make it something it's not Kinda like a "holiday tree". Before I did it without humor and a whole bunch of people cried and felt like they were being picked on, so now I'll still tell you if I think you're being a dumb ass but I'll do it with Humor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lim10gm Posted December 18, 2005 Share Posted December 18, 2005 Divisions: -Open -Limited -Revolver -Standard Standard Div Existing Prod rules apply except, minor PF has 10rds capacity /major 8rds, 1911 type guns allowed, widebody guns cannot have magwells, all gear behind hips. Reasons for my idea The Glock -vs- 1911 trigger debate is a non-issue. I see no reason to seperate the designs. I do feel, however, that race guns with large magwells have a reloading advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck D Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 (edited) Glock only division...that would be cool but the only "affirmative action" division slot left has already been taken by the SS crowd. We only need 4 Divisions: Open, Limited, Production, Revolver. SS and Limited 10 would be CATEGORIES within Limited Division and awards would be contingent upon participation. As a strong proponent of L10, I'd be willing to downgrade the Division to category status if SS proponents would be willing to do so as well. I'm all for streamlining the system if I'm not the only one being "downsized." I'm certainly not holding my breath waiting for this to happen though.... Edited December 19, 2005 by Chuck D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 Call a spade a spade. L10 is Single Stack almost. Everyone needs to deal with it. Get rid of one or the other. I will never shoot L10 because I have a limited gun, basically I would just download it to L10 because i want a win of some kind at a local evant to make myself feel spiffy. Single Stack is cool because it does go back to the way things were way before we put the fist bbl weight on the gun's. I agree with several, oepn it up. Run what you brung go back to the way it was. Hell we had better prize tables and payouts back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck D Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 (edited) The problem you "forget" is that in California, N.J. N.Y. Mass. and Hawaii..that "spade" is reduced by State Law to be nothing more than a mere "shovel" that only holds 10 rounds of "dirt." Be thankful you have the "luxury" of "downloading" your Limited gun. Some of us are stuck with searching for, paying outrageous money for, or "rebuilding" previously owned (pre-94) magazines. As far as feeling "spiffy" about winning a local event...after 20 years in the sport...the "spiffyness" of winning a local match has long worn off. For those of us ACTUALLY around when the SS was the only choice...we heard the same whining when Shaw and Plaxco came out with the first barrel weights and compensators and Team Springfield introduced the world to the P9 and 9mm major. The 1911 SS purists survived that change and they'll survive the "downloaded" Limited gun phase as well. With some creative packaging...we can have both without eliminating one or the other. Lewis class worked only when EVERYONE shot virtually the same gun and even back then...you had various catagories for LE, High Woman, High Junior, and Revolver. Edited December 19, 2005 by Chuck D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ankeny Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajarrel Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 Personally, I kinda like them the way they are. Is that ok or am I simply being resistant because I don't want to change. Just give me the LAMR dj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRBean Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 Hey what about a makarov division. Yeah that would be cool, oh wait a better idea foreign gun division, nope then we'd have to have a U.S. division to make things fair. We must really be bored to keep this topic going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSeevers Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 Shooting with Steve Moneypenny and Flexmoney we came up with the perfect solution for the new division. Plastic grip, striker fired pistol. Now that version is made by Glock and around 10 other companies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Moneypenny Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 I'm starting a count on the companys feel free to add everyone. Looking at striker fired pistols here. some are VERY much like a glock inducing glock to sue them! 1. Glock 2. S&W Sigma 3. HS2000/ SPringfield XD 4. Kahr 5. Taurus 24/7 6. Ruger 9/45 ? striker fired iirc? 7. High point 8. HK's P2000? haven't seen inside of one just toyed with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 9. CZ 100 10. Walther P99 I think the old H&K VPZ-thing I think also fits the bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 (edited) 11. Steyr M9 12. Vektor CP1 Edited December 21, 2005 by spook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 Lucky #13: Magnum Research Lone Eagle (hey, it's a striker-fired plastic-gripped pistol..) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted December 21, 2005 Author Share Posted December 21, 2005 Heeeeyyyy..none of those are Glocks. Go get your own division. <<<<<<<<< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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