Stacked target hit on T2

[9x45]

Shooter had 1 Alpha on T1, above, and the 2nd hit was on T2, below, but the the perforate line was on T2. He claimed 2 A's on T1, I say the hit on T2 was on the scoring area of T2, not T1. It was on the perf, but inside the target area of T2.  Didn't get a pic, but this was what T2 looked like.

 

 

[Poppa Bear]

So T2 was below T1 so that the perforation of the head of T2 was on the perforation line of the D zone of T1?

[9x45]

In the middle of the A zone of T1, but I say the perf is inclusive for T2, and not T1. 

 

Edited October 1, 2018 by 9x45

[Hammer002]

Trying to understand your explanation, but if 2 targets are stacked, one in front of the other, and the round bisects/touches the outer perforation of the front target and the area behind is a scoring area, it counts on both targets if needed.  I think that’s what you were asking?  So potentially there could be 3 holes making 4 scores.

[ChuckS]

4 minutes ago, 9x45 said:

In the A zone of T1, but I say the perf is inclusive for T2, and not T1. 

 

will you please translate " but the the perforate line was on T2 "

[9x45]

T2 was in front of T1, lower.  If the hit was on the perf above T2, yes, but it was inside of T2 perf.

 

[ChuckS]

Just now, 9x45 said:

T2 was in front of T1, lower.  If the hit was on the perf above T2, yes, but it was inside of T2 perf.

 

Was it touching the perf on T2?

[RJH]

1 minute ago, 9x45 said:

T2 was in front of T1, lower.  If the hit was on the perf above T2, yes, but it was inside of T2 perf.

 

 

 

did it touch the perf?

[9x45]

The hit is on the inside of the perf on T2 on the old B zone.

[9x45]

Yes, it was touching the perf line on the B zone of T2. Inside of T2.

Edited October 1, 2018 by 9x45

[ChuckS]

Just now, 9x45 said:

The hit is on the inside of the perf on T2 on the old B zone.

So, that means the hole was NOT touching the perf on T2?

[Poppa Bear]

If it touched the perf on T2 then it also counts as a hit on T1.  If T1 had been a NS he would have been given a NS penalty.  It is usually a good idea to put some form of a hard cover or a No Shoot between the targets to separate the scoring areas.

[RJH]

then he gets the a on the target behind it too

[ChuckS]

1 minute ago, 9x45 said:

Yes, it was touching the perf line on the B zone of T2. Inside of T2.

Twofer!

[9x45]

Hole touched the perf on T2 in the B zone.

[9x45]

Ok, just have never seen that before...

[9x45]

Thanks Chuck.

[ChuckS]

5 minutes ago, 9x45 said:

Ok, just have never seen that before...

Look at #4 of the target scoring examples on page 239 in the back of the rule book. It shows getting credit for 2 targets with one hole.

Edited October 1, 2018 by ChuckS

[9x45]

Yes, I just didn't want to 238 pages to get there.....

[9x45]

Yup, there it is.... and that's why Chuck is a CRO!

 

 

[Sarge]

Any RO should have know that

[OPENB]

We commonly use black tape on the T1 target to form a "hard cover" border between the targets to prevent this. But yeah, Twofer.

[waktasz]

I think we should delete this thread and then have someone who speaks english re-write the first post, include the answer, and sticky it.

[Nathanb]

Exactly. If you stack targets you should separate them with hard cover or a no shoot to avoid these scenarios. 

[MikeBurgess]

1 hour ago, Nathanb said:

Exactly. If you stack targets you should separate them with hard cover or a no shoot to avoid these scenarios. 

Hardcover yes, a  no-shoot just changes the scoring scenario to one with a penalty.

Mostly using hard cover or a no-shoot serves to make the visual distinction between the targets easier for the shooter, I use then most of the time when building stages but I also like to add some stacked targets without them to force the shooter to define their aiming point without that visual aid.