forkliftHIFI Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 I've been shooting limited with an SAO handgun but have a DA/SA with decocker on the way. If I wanted to shoot the new gun in limited until I assemble a rig/magazines for production can I start hammer up even though it doesn't have a manual safety? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Stevens Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 55 minutes ago, Gary Stevens said: No. ^^^Plus 100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer002 Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Sarge said: ^^^Plus 100. Another 100^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 I wouldn't want to stick a cocked gun into a holster if there was no safety Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 4 hours ago, Hi-Power Jack said: I wouldn't want to stick a cocked gun into a holster if there was no safety And you would think I was Satan himself for DQing two shooters last weekend who holstered 2011’s with safeties off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 2 hours ago, Sarge said: you would think I was Satan for DQing two shooters who holstered 2011’s with safeties off. Their wives should buy you a beer, at the very least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 37 minutes ago, Hi-Power Jack said: Their wives should buy you a beer, at the very least You would think! But all I got was a bunch of lip from one and a heap of excuses from the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuvDog Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 What would they even say for excuses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 1 hour ago, LuvDog said: What would they even say for excuses? At the risk of thread drift, one shooter said I was unsafe because I let him holster off safe. Said I should have warned him. The other shooter got confused dicking around with Barney mag and asked me if he could holster after he racked one in the chamber. I said , “you are at make ready and you can legally holster anytime you want.” When I DQed him he said that I said it was OK to holster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuvDog Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 6 minutes ago, Sarge said: At the risk of thread drift, one shooter said I was unsafe because I let him holster off safe. Said I should have warned him. The other shooter got confused dicking around with Barney mag and asked me if he could holster after he racked one in the chamber. I said , “you are at make ready and you can legally holster anytime you want.” When I DQed him he said that I said it was OK to holster. Haha, so basically they were blaming you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 1 hour ago, LuvDog said: Haha, so basically they were blaming you. Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHAVEGAS Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Things have gotten a little weird now that striker guns can have uber low weight trigger kits. Rules are rules, but I could see somebody wondering and head scratching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 There was a posting, here at BE, a few months ago about what sounded like a very experienced shooter who shot himself in the leg during a rapid draw, with a plastic gun that had a Very Light trigger. No safety on the gun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer002 Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 11 hours ago, Sarge said: And you would think I was Satan himself for DQing two shooters last weekend who holstered 2011’s with safeties off. Good call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borneoknives Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 I've also had to DQ a guy for this. But when i got tapped in he'd be doing it for several stages and the other guy didn't notice/know/care whatever. Getting yelled at was super fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkliftHIFI Posted June 25, 2018 Author Share Posted June 25, 2018 (edited) On 6/23/2018 at 5:05 PM, IHAVEGAS said: Things have gotten a little weird now that striker guns can have uber low weight trigger kits. Rules are rules, but I could see somebody wondering and head scratching. Sorry I see now it was a dumb question but being a casual and relatively new participant to sanctioned matches this was exactly the reason I was asking this question. No one bats and eye at people using a striker gun with no thumb safety and a 2 lb trigger. Thanks for setting me strait guys Edited June 25, 2018 by forkliftHIFI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCTaylor Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 (edited) On 6/23/2018 at 5:20 PM, Hi-Power Jack said: There was a posting, here at BE, a few months ago about what sounded like a very experienced shooter who shot himself in the leg during a rapid draw, with a plastic gun that had a Very Light trigger. No safety on the gun Jack - you know better than that. All polymer framed guns have some form of safety on the trigger. Thumb safety, not all of them... SOME form of safety, yes. Edited June 25, 2018 by SCTaylor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motosapiens Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 lol @ striker fired guns' 'safety'. That's why they call it Glock leg and not 2011 leg. On a side not, I wonder how sarge/satan managed to talk 2 different people into holstering with the safety off. I've RO'd tens of thousands of shooters and never seen it once (I did see it once when I wasn't the RO, when shooter forgot to put the safety on between strings). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 43 minutes ago, motosapiens said: lol @ striker fired guns' 'safety'. That's why they call it Glock leg and not 2011 leg. On a side not, I wonder how sarge/satan managed to talk 2 different people into holstering with the safety off. I've RO'd tens of thousands of shooters and never seen it once (I did see it once when I wasn't the RO, when shooter forgot to put the safety on between strings). I saw it twice with one guy on the same day (long story, I wasn't the RO) and a few times before that. Each time it was a Sig 226 guy that decide he wanted to shoot Limited to avoid the DA first shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ima45dv8 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 We had a local shooter who was starting to develop some seriously good skills and scores in a relatively short time. He decided to make the leap from his Glock to a 1911. As he came to the line with it for the first time I said I hoped he'd done a lot of dry-fire practice with it, being as the Manual of Arms was so different. He said it wouldn't be a problem. At the end of loading he holstered the gun. I asked him to raise his arm, and I slowly reached down and applied the safety. That one click was very loud. And ended his day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 Don't do that. DQ the guy and ask him to unload, but don't touch their gun. If the guy shoots his own foot off, fine, but if I rock his gun in the holster and cause it, that's a much bigger problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHAVEGAS Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 2 hours ago, SCTaylor said: Jack - you know better than that. All polymer framed guns have some form of safety on the trigger. Thumb safety, not all of them... SOME form of safety, yes. A Glock 2lb trigger is a 2lb trigger. I checked the math . 2 hours ago, motosapiens said: On a side not, I wonder how sarge/satan managed to talk 2 different people into holstering with the safety off. I've RO'd tens of thousands of shooters and never seen it once (I did see it once when I wasn't the RO, when shooter forgot to put the safety on between strings). I've seen it twice, once when a guy shot an IDPA classifier with a gun different than what he was used to. Yesterday when a guy on my squad shot the first round of a steel challenge with a Glock & the second with a 1911. I dq'd the IDPA guy, RM did not want to dq the guy yesterday and I did not want to fight about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHAVEGAS Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, waktasz said: Don't do that. DQ the guy and ask him to unload, but don't touch their gun. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCTaylor Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 @IHAVEGAS no arguing that. But saying they have NO safety is disingenuous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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