RePete Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 There is a new Rulebook 2017.3 and Match Admin Guide. It ca be found here idpa.tech Why does IDPA have to be so secretive? What happened to no changes for 5 years and this is the third version in 1 year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clint007 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Mostly Just some gear rule changes. http://www.idpa.com/blog/category/News-from-IDPA.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike62 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 It does appear they got rid of the requirement for a paper backup which makes running big matches a little easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njl Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Actually, this change seems kind of huge. http://www.idpa.tech/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Movement.pdf I shot my first classifier today, and had practiced [the classifier] recently with a friend on our own. It was apparently a surprise to just about everyone at today's match that strings 2 and 3 on stage 2 "no longer require shooting while advancing or retreating". Nobody had a good explanation for it...just "new rule - you don't have to be moving while firing on those strings. String 2, you start at one line and shoot anywhere from there to the front line. String 3, just stand at the front line and shoot." It took me quite a bit of searching to find the above, which I assume is the explanation for the apparent rule change we were told of during the stage walk-through. So, because "movement" is subjective, to level the playing field and remove the SO's from the equation, they just decided to tell SO's to ignore stage requirements for any shooting on the move. i.e. A stage can still say "shoot while advancing/retreating", but no PE will be assessed for failing to move for those shots. I'm new to IDPA...only shot 2 matches prior to the classifier, but I think this is a step backwards for the sport, and others in my squad agreed. Shooting on the move is a skill that could definitely mean the difference between winning or losing in a real gun fight. It's disappointing that IDPA will no longer require its practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 You are not required to move, doesn't mean you can't move, just not required as before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balakay Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Here is another significant change..... http://www.idpa.tech/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Ruling-on-Fault-lines.pdf If you are short-armed or inflexible, the shooting position is "unfair". Call the MD and ask for the fault lines to be changed. I guess low ports and prone could be tossed, too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 I'm going to have to follow Thumper's advice here.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerTrace Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 31 minutes ago, rowdyb said: I'm going to have to follow Thumper's advice here.... Which is?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balakay Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 29 minutes ago, RangerTrace said: Which is?? "If you can't say anything nice don't say nothing at all" --Thumper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerTrace Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 18 minutes ago, Balakay said: "If you can't say anything nice don't say nothing at all" --Thumper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 So are the things on the tech site binding and current?? Or are they just behind the scenes ideas and just unofficial? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike62 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 My AC said that's those are official and what I must use at my February Tier 2 match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaJim Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 So movement in the classifier that states forward/rearward progression is now optional? OMG :FACEPALM: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddc Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 (edited) This is analogous to what the NFL is doing to their rules; making it into flag football. Pretty soon for IDPA you will be able to self-declare your classification. We certainly don't want people actually running through the classifier and needlessly exposing themselves to the tripping hazards created by the raised fault lines. Edited January 12, 2018 by ddc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clint007 Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 The IDPA tech site itself states that things on that website are NOT official. Until it makes it into the official IDPA.com and ass'd rule book. The tech does lead the idpa.com a lot but dont' start running matches based on idpa.tech info that isn't official on idpa.com yet. That's how I read this. But I''m just a grunt... http://www.idpa.tech/idpa-would-like-to-address-some-confusion/ C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhgtyre Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 On 1/11/2018 at 7:11 PM, WaJim said: So movement in the classifier that states forward/rearward progression is now optional? OMG :FACEPALM: Based on the way I've seen many IDPA shooters "move" while shooting it was always optional. Shuffling your feet a tiny amount is NOT really moving but it had become acceptable in IDPA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas H Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Most people are going to shoot the new 5x5 classifier anyway, since there aren't any shots over 10 yards and so on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaJim Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 So the classifier is now the 5X5 stage only or has that stage replaced Stage 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, WaJim said: So the classifier is now the 5X5 stage only or has that stage replaced Stage 2. its an alternative classifier. you can run the "new" one from the 17 rule book ooooorrrrr the 5x5. Each count equally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RePete Posted January 27, 2018 Author Share Posted January 27, 2018 20 hours ago, Clint007 said: The IDPA tech site itself states that things on that website are NOT official. Until it makes it into the official IDPA.com and ass'd rule book. The tech does lead the idpa.com a lot but dont' start running matches based on idpa.tech info that isn't official on idpa.com yet. That's how I read this. But I''m just a grunt... http://www.idpa.tech/idpa-would-like-to-address-some-confusion/ C A Grunt who can understand and comprehend basic English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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