busdriver02 Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 So I was wondering through one of the local gun shops, and found this thing with a 25% of tag on it. According to the guys at the counter, this was part of an estate sale that included some more old open guns. There was another one behind the counter, but the slide wouldn't travel back enough to lock back and felt like the recoil spring was installed incorrectly, but they wouldn't let me take it apart to check. So I grabbed this one. I can only find one reference to the WG prefix on the serial number which seems to indicate it's an old smith kit frame. Which would make sense given the Propoint. It's a Canadian frame. The slide is serrated on top, with the serrations carrying over the comp. The grip safety is very nicely blended and looks to have been pinned at one point. The barrel is a Nowlin Super 38. The comp appears to be a threaded on cone type. The slide has a little play in it, but still shot very accurately with store bought ammo. The scope worked but had a bunch of spots in it, which that turned out to be a lot of grime that cleaned off. The mount has Dawson's arrow thing on it, so I assume it's a Dawson mount? So is there any way to know anything concrete about this gun? Is this actually an old Baer open gun? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aandabooks Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Definately old school. Don't know what it is but I've never seen a scope mount like that. Looks like the slide lock would be tough to get to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rishii Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 It could be an old baer gun one of my shooting buddies had one similar to that the scope mount is a red buff, they were popular in the early 90, if you decide to replace it, they had to machine off the plunger tube and the mount replaces it. You'll have to cut off the mount above the plunger tube. the dust cover on the para is thin compared to a sti, but they did drill and tap those for scope mounts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Not a Dawson mount, his early "Awesome" mounts were dovetailed to the scope so you could swap in a new pre-zeroed scope as they broke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott in OK Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 EGW used to have a replacement for the plunger tube if you took the scope mount off. You would need to check with them to see if they still have them. I bought one when I went to a cmore from the tube scope on an old para. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caspian guy Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 (edited) If you wanted to drill and tap the dust cover you can have a small steel plate silver soldered to the outside of the dust cover. Then drill and tap through the plate and the dust cover. Makes it thicker and less likely to crack the dust cover where the holes go thorough. I have an old caspian frame done that way people used to do the same thing to paras. Edited July 3, 2017 by caspian guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drewbeck Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 I don't think it's worth messing with, it's cool on it's own and reason enough to own it in my book. whats 25% off equate to? Just curios Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powder Finger Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 mount looks like a RED BUFF to me one of the various makers in the 90's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busdriver02 Posted July 3, 2017 Author Share Posted July 3, 2017 5 hours ago, drewbeck said: I don't think it's worth messing with, it's cool on it's own and reason enough to own it in my book. whats 25% off equate to? Just curios That's what I'm thinking, as long as the scope works anyways. I have open blasters to compete with, this is mostly an interesting collecting type thing. Roughly $950, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill H Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 If you want to put a c more on it see if EGW has one of the flat top red buff mounts then you can put a slide ride or whatever they are called on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfisher Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 It's a Les Baer Para with a Red Buff mount, I shot a red buff on a Caspian hi-cap for years.The one on the op has/had a Red Buff on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powder Finger Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 old Caspian with frame crack fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3gunDQ Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 I'd toss that POS tasco scope and put a mini dot in that rear dovetail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbrowns Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Cool old gun! Congrats! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busdriver02 Posted July 5, 2017 Author Share Posted July 5, 2017 Received word back from Baer Custom. It is one of their builds on a customer supplied frame. Circa 1994. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caspian guy Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Very cool old gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerrymarsh Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 (edited) Had a mount just like it on my Para .....Till I went to cmore but still shooting the 45 I can see the big holes when I shoot Edited July 5, 2017 by Jerrymarsh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfisher Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 You can actually mill/cut-off the Red Buff leaving the plunger tube with the thumb shield. I did that on the top one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busdriver02 Posted July 5, 2017 Author Share Posted July 5, 2017 Redfisher, that looks pretty slick. For now I'm inclined to leave it alone, but we'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerrymarsh Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Redfisher that's what my GS did this old Frame looks like Swiss cheese Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelix Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 (edited) On the Para frame guns the dust cover is very thin. On my old Para they had to add metal to the frame for the mount. I would just leave it alone unless you plan to use it. Edited July 5, 2017 by Steelix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelix Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 (edited) double tap Edited July 5, 2017 by Steelix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abb1 Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 Wow, that is an old Tasco PDP3 scope. I haven't seen them in almost 25 years. They were king in the early 90's which have then been replaced by the PDP4 (or pop cans as we used to call them), and then the C-More was designed and replaced them all. Great find! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Anderson Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Great find! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigboy69 Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 That may be an old EGW gun, built with a Caspian lower. I know Geo used to use that mount a lot back in the day. It acted as a thumb guard also. and you slide stop would have a big dimple drilled so it wouldn't go to slide stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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