thompsoncustom Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Was wondering whats the slowest powder you guys have used to make 9mm major using a 115gr bullet. Slowest ive used so far is AA#7 but im sure someone can beat that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superdude Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 3N38 works in the 9mm with 115 grain bullets. It might be faster or slower than A#7 depending on which burn rate chart you look at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caspian guy Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 34 minutes ago, 57K said: Maybe not! AA#7 is very slow burning for 115s. As far as others I can think of, I wouldn't use Blue Dot and getting enough V-V 3N38 into the case might be doubtful. I once had a SPEER ballistician tell me that they had worked up 9mm loads with AA#9 and he was pleasantly surprised with the results. Like 3N38, doubtful you could get enough in the case. And, Vectan apparently doesn't make SP2 any longer. They don't show data for it at their website, anyway. Yep till i stopped being able to get it sp2 was a good answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 SP2 a and 3n38 use interchangeable load data, 9.4gr under a 115 @ 1.161 makes major and is listed in the online load manual It doesn't get any better if you ask me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superdude Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 9 hours ago, 57K said: And, Vectan apparently doesn't make SP2 any longer. They don't show data for it at their website, anyway. I found all kinds of data for SP2. http://www.vectan.fr/UK/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leadpilot Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 1 hour ago, kneelingatlas said: SP2 a and 3n38 use interchangeable load data, 9.4gr under a 115 @ 1.161 makes major and is listed in the online load manual It doesn't get any better if you ask me! I used this this data for the first time the other day and I have to agree. I shot five different powders, all making 170ish Pf, and the 3n38 was definitely the one. You just have to be a tad bit more patient and gentle while loading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Leadpilot said: You just have to be a tad bit more patient and gentle while loading. As long as you don't run the press like a drunken sailor you'll be fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooldylocks Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 AA9 with a 115 is both possible, and lovely feeling. Completely not worth it though for the effort needed when loading. Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thompsoncustom Posted April 27, 2017 Author Share Posted April 27, 2017 AA#9..... now that's a slow powder By effort do you mean keeping all the powder in the case and not flying out when the press indexes? The charge has to be in the 10-11gr range but I think it would all fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 You might check on Win 572, it's been said it may be a close replacement for 4756. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueeyedme Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Personally, I like WAC for 9maj. You will need 7.6 or so for a 115 and gas for the comp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thompsoncustom Posted April 27, 2017 Author Share Posted April 27, 2017 1 hour ago, blueeyedme said: Personally, I like WAC for 9maj. You will need 7.6 or so for a 115 and gas for the comp. I wouldnt call WAC a slower powder tho when it comes to open guns. Actually its probably the fastest powder ive used in my open gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 8 minutes ago, thompsoncustom said: I wouldnt call WAC a slower powder tho when it comes to open guns. Actually its probably the fastest powder ive used in my open gun. Yeah but it's still pretty good. Nice and dense so there is room in the case. Plenty of gas to work for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieCrispo Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 I use HS-6. Seems to work the comp very wellSent from my LG-H918 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user293 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 (edited) On 4/27/2017 at 0:01 PM, 57K said: That's good news about 3N38. Anyone have any specific loads and chrono data? I don't have much data saved but I use 3n38 for 9 major in my SV. 9.4 grains with a PD124 JHP gets me about 173-175 pf. Have tried hs-6, AA7, win 572(although I didn't test it up to major PF yet) and they all fall short to 3n38. I could try to load up some AA9 for giggles but my barrel isn't the fastest for making major super easy. Edited May 12, 2017 by user293 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 31 minutes ago, user293 said: I use 3n38 for 9 major in my SV. 9.4 grains with a PD124 JHP. Have tried hs-6, AA7, win 572 and they all fall short to 3n38. What is it about the 3n38 that you like so much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user293 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 On 5/12/2017 at 8:01 AM, Hi-Power Jack said: What is it about the 3n38 that you like so much? I like the because it's the one powder that does everything I want it to do. Dot doesn't move too much. Very predictable. Tracking is good. Feel is good. Everything about it is just right on for me. But I've only owned two open guns ever and they both had hybrid barrels with ports and all I every shot was 3n38. So maybe it's a biased thing and I'm used to the feel and. that everything else just doesn't feel right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 1 hour ago, user293 said: maybe it's a biased thing and I'm used to the feel & everything else doesn't feel right. If it "feels better", it is "better". Thanks. Guess my next purchase will be 3n38 .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honkeymcgee Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 I just did loads with 115 PDs for the CK arms open gun I just picked up. 9.8grs of AA#7 was still a little slow and I didn't feel like doing any other loads with it because it's so dirty. These are the charges and PF I got while checking I've the Chrono. I plan on running the 9.1gr if hs-6. These were all loaded at 1.165". 8.9 hs-6. 169pf 9.1 hs-6. 173pf 7.7 AC. 170pf 7.9 AC. 175pf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaylanGivens Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 On 5/12/2017 at 8:28 AM, user293 said: I don't have much data saved but I use 3n38 for 9 major in my SV. 9.4 grains with a PD124 JHP gets me about 173-175 pf. Have tried hs-6, AA7, win 572(although I didn't test it up to major PF yet) and they all fall short to 3n38. I could try to load up some AA9 for giggles but my barrel isn't the fastest for making major super easy. That's a lot of powder for a 9mm case... Do you have any trouble with it spilling out when you load? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user293 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 5 hours ago, RaylanGivens said: That's a lot of powder for a 9mm case... Do you have any trouble with it spilling out when you load? Nah not really. Press will get messy over time but not bad. Just clean it quick every couple hundred rounds. Any more powder though and the case doesn't sit in the bell very nice and spills more. I load on a 550 but I can turn out rounds fast enough for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user293 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 9 hours ago, Hi-Power Jack said: If it "feels better", it is "better". Thanks. Guess my next purchase will be 3n38 .... Worth a shot to try. If your barrel and comp setup chronos faster, you won't have to load as much powder which is nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leadpilot Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 9 hours ago, RaylanGivens said: That's a lot of powder for a 9mm case... Do you have any trouble with it spilling out when you load? It's really full! I've been riding the index hole with my thumb to help soften the snap. It took some time to get the feel for it but it's not too bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user293 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 12 hours ago, Leadpilot said: It's really full! I've been riding the index hole with my thumb to help soften the snap. It took some time to get the feel for it but it's not too bad. My cases are even a little more full than that. But I'm not on a 650 either. One day I will be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaylanGivens Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 12 hours ago, Leadpilot said: It's really full! I've been riding the index hole with my thumb to help soften the snap. It took some time to get the feel for it but it's not too bad. That's really full... compressed load for sure... thanks for the pic... You guys have me thinking about trying 3n38 now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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