Nathanb Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 And every single gun being different too. What may work for you won't work for me or the next guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-Money Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 On 3/26/2017 at 6:16 PM, Malarkey said: So really the question is what is the lowest weight spring which spring will set off everything with a titan hammer? For me it's the EG light setup, with the FP spring cut down until the hammer at rest pushes the FP flush. Not drop safe, not really, but since I never use the gun except after "make ready" I'm unconcerned. This setup works in both of my Stock 2s. I use CCI, Win, S&B, and Fiochi for practice. I'd prefer CCI, thencouragement Win, Fiochi, and last S&B. All are reliable but S&B in particular have the most failures or other problems. I credit my reliability to seating primers deeply, Xtreme FP, weak FP spring, Titan hammer, and reducing all friction points between hammer fall and primer hit. No Bolo, as that would reduce DA force. If due to brass variations a primer ends up high, a second strike resolves the problem. Inspection and Federal primers seem to suffice for match ammo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malarkey Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 For me it's the EG light setup, with the FP spring cut down until the hammer at rest pushes the FP flush. Not drop safe, not really, but since I never use the gun except after "make ready" I'm unconcerned. This setup works in both of my Stock 2s. I use CCI, Win, S&B, and Fiochi for practice. I'd prefer CCI, thencouragement Win, Fiochi, and last S&B. All are reliable but S&B in particular have the most failures or other problems. I credit my reliability to seating primers deeply, Xtreme FP, weak FP spring, Titan hammer, and reducing all friction points between hammer fall and primer hit. No Bolo, as that would reduce DA force. If due to brass variations a primer ends up high, a second strike resolves the problem. Inspection and Federal primers seem to suffice for match ammo. Do you use the extreme disco?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-Money Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 On 3/28/2017 at 10:56 AM, Malarkey said: Do you use the extreme disco? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk No, I have a two wing type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWfront Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 On 3/29/2017 at 8:47 PM, Twinkie said: No, I have a two wing type. Do you have any experience using the Xtreme disco? If so what are the advantages of going with the two wing type? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted May 24, 2017 Author Share Posted May 24, 2017 It comes with 50% more marketing and the same trigger pull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulm540 Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Finally got my set up to work with the s &b primers. 13 pounds hammer spring with judicious polishing, pd springs, Titan hammer and bolo. Only 1 light strike in DA but probably a high primer. Will use s bs for practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalShooter69 Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 25 minutes ago, bulm540 said: Finally got my set up to work with the s &b primers. 13 pounds hammer spring with judicious polishing, pd springs, Titan hammer and bolo. Only 1 light strike in DA but probably a high primer. Will use s bs for practice. Impossible. @Twinkie say this is impossible with a bolo. /head explodes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-Money Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 44 minutes ago, SoCalShooter69 said: Impossible. @Twinkie say this is impossible with a bolo. /head explodes. Unpossible! 1 hour ago, bulm540 said: Finally got my set up to work with the s &b primers. 13 pounds hammer spring with judicious polishing, pd springs, Titan hammer and bolo. Only 1 light strike in DA but probably a high primer. Will use s bs for practice. Yeah I wouldn't use anything which has light strikes at a match I played money for. I'm sure anything can work, but I stopped a long time ago and settled on a pretty simple setup. I'm using a 13lb PD spring but so far I think I like the E.G. light a bit more. Not that it matters, because when I'm shooting I don't notice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulm540 Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 Surprised me too but have a couple of K of s bs for practice. Have a lot of Feds for matches though. Good for the next 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbu Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 3 hours ago, SoCalShooter69 said: Impossible. @Twinkie say this is impossible with a bolo. /head explodes. I was at a gathering last weekend with a guy named "Ben". i was showing the fancy PD palm swell grips. He was adamant that my gun "doesn't work". He couldn't believe it has a 15.5# hammer spring, sets off winchester, CCI, S&B and Wolf primers. it has a 5# 8oz da 1#14oz sa. If a person hasn't kept up with PatriotDefense designed parts, it is incredible how good they run. 2 years ago, a 5 1/2# da would be federal only. I still do have issues with high primers from my Lee Toadmaster. but when fed well seated primers... bang every time! Then again, if i had the trigger control he has, i wouldn't NEED the soft smooth sweet trigger! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted May 26, 2017 Author Share Posted May 26, 2017 @SoCalShooter69 smells a lot like @ryridesmotox. How've you been? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 I suggest to all that they follow the forum rules. Posting GuidelinesAttitudePlease be polite. Or if not polite, at least respectful.No bickering. Regardless of the subject matter.Antagonistic, offensive, or quarrelsome tones are not acceptable.No trolling. No alternate accounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SISIG Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 13lbs is the way to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenida Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 13lbs!! Wow that is light! i think my gun is possesed. i can get 5lbs 4oz with pd yellow spring (14lbs) and 5lbs 11oz with Medium Extreme. ?????? I think I have the best tanfo in the world, haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHAVEGAS Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 10 hours ago, SISIG said: 13lbs is the way to go Federals & a 1050 for deep seating, else I would use the 13 and be happy with it. The 10 is my favorite though, just a smidge under 4.5# d.a.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SISIG Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 3 hours ago, Avenida said: 13lbs!! Wow that is light! i think my gun is possesed. i can get 5lbs 4oz with pd yellow spring (14lbs) and 5lbs 11oz with Medium Extreme. ?????? I think I have the best tanfo in the world, haha Overtime the spring softens after some live and dry practice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenida Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Just now, SISIG said: Overtime the spring softens after some live and dry practice Spring is new - medium spring is under 6lbs in my gun, and same spring over 7 in another. i have 2!! i dont want to shoot the 7lb one ever again!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SISIG Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Avenida said: Spring is new - medium spring is under 6lbs in my gun, and same spring over 7 in another. i have 2!! i dont want to shoot the 7lb one ever again!!!! Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenida Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 I am wondering if I got a really good tanfo or A really bad one??? is it a 7lb the norm with Medium spring right??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbu Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 14 minutes ago, Avenida said: I am wondering if I got a really good tanfo or A really bad one??? is it a 7lb the norm with Medium spring right??? 7-8# is normal with the EG medium. I'm actually INCREASING trigger weight for the off season to work on trigger control. FYI - wolff makes a 22# spring. Oh, you should test trigger pull with each mag you own. There can be rubbing on the trigger bow that changes the character of the gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted November 20, 2018 Author Share Posted November 20, 2018 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Avenida said: I am wondering if I got a really good tanfo or A really bad one??? is it a 7lb the norm with Medium spring right??? That’s normal. 6.5-7 is around where mine was with every patriot part made, and hours of polishing. It doesn’t matter; 6 vs 7 is the same trigger unless you have a digital widget pulling the trigger instead of a human. Dryfire with it often, instead of spending those hours with it disassembled on the bench... and 7 is just fine on match day. Stoeger’s gun was around 3 to 3.5 SA and 7 DA when I dryfired it, I’d guess. It’s not a light trigger by any means. Doesn’t seem to hurt him at all. Edited November 20, 2018 by MemphisMechanic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenida Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 1 hour ago, MemphisMechanic said: That’s normal. 6.5-7 is around where mine was with every patriot part made, and hours of polishing. It doesn’t matter; 6 vs 7 is the same trigger unless you have a digital widget pulling the trigger instead of a human. Dryfire with it often, instead of spending those hours with it disassembled on the bench... and 7 is just fine on match day. Stoeger’s gun was around 3 to 3.5 SA and 7 DA when I dryfired it, I’d guess. It’s not a light trigger by any means. Doesn’t seem to hurt him at all. Although I agree 100% I am scratching my head thinking what makes my other gun so good! Trigger is not even 6lbs!! And soent half the time making it as nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhdeal Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 This is an eye opening and hilarious thread. One topic much discussed about Tanfo's is the fact that they are all different. I suppose it's the Italian way. I'm used to rifle barrels being individuals, but reading about how many of you use the same parts and prep similarly getting different results proves it. Do you suppose they're all redheads? It sure doesn't mean I'll get rid of my newest Tanfoglio toy or that I won't buy another! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbu Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 2 hours ago, Avenida said: Although I agree 100% I am scratching my head thinking what makes my other gun so good! Trigger is not even 6lbs!! And soent half the time making it as nice! Pretty sure ... ..... i don't know ! I suspect it's in the sear, sear cage, sear cage pocket (in the frame) relationship. The same reason shaving the BOLO nose reduces pull weight while lengthening hammer swing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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