DenverDave Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 (edited) Kicking around the possibility of either getting a STI Trubor or maybe a DVC Open, wondering which caliber to get 9mm or 38 Super (and yes I reload)So the question is: Which one and why? Edited March 26, 2016 by DenverDave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38supPat Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 .38 cuz it's better, 9mm cuz it's cheaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DenverDave Posted March 26, 2016 Author Share Posted March 26, 2016 More info please Pat.Why is the .38 Super Comp better? (please do NOT think this is a capricious or smart a** statement)I am not so much concerned about cheaper (although it would be nice), I am looking for accuracy, fun and doing it safely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EEH Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 .38 cuz it's better, 9mm cuz it's cheaper. What he said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38supPat Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 More reliable, yes 9mm can be made as reliable but it takes more work. Better powder selection, with more case capacity you have a lot more choices in powder to get it the way you want it. You will hear people say 9mm is as good, you never hear them say 9mm is better. You don't hear this about Super lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grantwoodok Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 All the above is true but often comes down to the brass. If you're OK with not picking up much 38 SuperComp brass and not worrying about it, 38SC is the way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRick Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 (edited) .38 cuz it's better, 9mm cuz it's cheaper. It pretty much boils down to this. I wouldn't say 38 Sup is better (I shoot a DVC in 38 Sup) but IMO is easier to get a recipe. I have shot 9mm out of it also just to try it out. The only thing I don't like about 38 Sup is finding the brass after a match. Edited March 26, 2016 by MrRick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 There is NO difference between the two ... :sight: Yes, it used to be difficult to get the 9mm Major to run, and there were few powders to use, BUT, not now. We have a M shooter at our range who uses a 9mm Major, and he wouldn't try a .38 super - because there is NO advantage. BUT, that brass thing .... Pay $150 for 1,000 pieces of brass in .38 super, and you want it to last a long time - you do NOT want to leave it on the ground. 9mm brass - practically free - don't mind leaving it. Now, if you are currently a M shooter, and having a tough time getting to GM despite firing 50,000 rounds per year and spending four hours/day dry firing, THEN, MAYBE, you might want to go for the .38 super. But, I doubt it .... Go for the 9mm - lot easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echotango Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 I have 2 open 9mm guns and didn't even consider 38 super. I don't see the need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 Many GM are moving to 9 also. I just went 9mm again when ordering a new SVI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grantwoodok Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 55% of participants at the USPSA Open Nationals shot 38 Super/SuperComp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 38 super and SC are on the way out! If you don't mind losing $20 worth of brass PER LOCAL MATCH then get a 38 SC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 55% of participants at the USPSA Open Nationals shot 38 Super/SuperComp. I agree but I remember when that was 85%+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerBaron Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 I prefer super BUT if the cost became an issue for me or meant I had to shoot less I'd go to 9 in a heartbeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric_Vmax Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 I prefer 38 super because I started shooting that and lived in an area where brassing was part of the stage work and someone brassed for you while you checked your targets. That is not the same where I live now and I got tired of hunting brass all the time. I switched to 9mm major and now that its not in the back of my mind, I am shooting a ton more and practicing more. I will leave it to people with more expertise than me about the technical aspects of the rounds. I would have to say that I would suspect you are stressing the brass more in 9mm major than 38 super but without data to back that up, that is just a guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 I suspect you stress the brass more in 9mm major than 38 super Could be - I don't know either, but it doesn't seem to matter much? I've reloaded 9mm Major a number of times - usually until I lose it ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelix Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 (edited) You guy's almost have me convinced on 9mm on my next gun. I still just like my 38s but it is the lost brass starting to get to me. How many years ago was it that 85% shot 38s/sc. Edited March 28, 2016 by Steelix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 I don't remember. But it's not been that long. 9mm has made huge in roads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andersonj55126 Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 (edited) I wouldn't even consider 38. 9mm has plenty of powders and easy to get more than enough pf. Edited March 28, 2016 by andersonj55126 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric_Vmax Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 I hear you, 9mm Major finally really started taking over in Minnesota and I finally got on that band wagon. I am SO happy I did. I buy bulk 9mm from a few really good sources and I don't pick up brass at a match, I pick it up at the indoor range since its easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 Starline new 38SC brass is $149 per 1,000. Starline new 9mm is $130 per 1,000. Both prices are retail. 10,000 pieces of 38SC brass = $1490. 10,000 pieces 9mm = $1300. Difference = $190 per 10,000 = 1.9 cents per. The cost savings is in once fired, or multi-time fired, brass. In that market, there is usually plenty of 9mm brass, not much 38 SC brass. Some of both has been for sale recently here, with 9mm being (ballpark) 6-8 cents per cheaper. Assuming you can find 9mm that you trust is once fired for 6-8 cents, and you have to buy new 38SC brass, the difference will be roughly $60-$90 per 1,000. Carry that out = $600-$900 additional per 10,000 rounds fired---assuming all brass is lost, all the time. If the brass is recovered...you started with new brass in 38SC, used in 9mm. How many times you will reload what started as used 9mm brass to major...? If you leave the 9mm brass lay after loading it once, but can find and reload the 38SC brass 1-2 times the cost starts to equal out. Many prefer 9mm major to 38SC...but I have never heard anyone say they prefer it based on performance, only cost. So, I bought a 38SC built by Matt McLearn. If I find the brass, great. If I don't? Well, someone will and he/she will get to shoot 38SC for not a lot more money than their buddy who is shooting 9mm major:) Whatever you buy, have fun with it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echotango Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 9mm used brass is typically $35/1000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 3.5 per is a good price. Powder Valley mixed for 5.4 per; Midway at 6.0 per is out of stock; Atlanta Arms (probably best deal) 4.4 per and it is processed. echotango how many times do you load 9mm range brass to major? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echotango Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 I have never purchased new brass. Most is free range brass or I have purchased range brass for $35/1k. I find it on backpage or gunbroker. I load until it splits or lost. I'm guessing 10+ times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 Free brass = best brass. Well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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