Hi-Power Jack Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 I haven't tried it, but I've read here at BE of excellent shooters (that's why I haven't tried it, yet) shooting Bill Drills out to 25 yards .... Of course, they didn't START out at 25 yards - must have worked their way out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Watching a really good GM shoot a 25yd bill drill is pretty humbling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 29 minutes ago, MemphisMechanic said: Watching a really good GM shoot a 25yd bill drill is pretty humbling. You can shorten that statement .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benos Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 On 5/16/2017 at 8:01 PM, tdp88 said: When starting out on Bill Drills, what distance should I shoot from, 7 yards? Should it stay there, or move further as shots get tighter? The OG Bill Drill is shot at 7 yards. All A's in 2 seconds is goal. When you can do that consistently, then start move the target to 10 yards, and so on. Eventually my goal was to shoot all A's in 2 seconds at 15 yards, cold turkey. Or in other words, all A's in 2 seconds for the first 6 shots of the practice session. That's tough. Only did it once I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GARD72977 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 I like to train with my focus on one part of the drill and do the rest subconscious. I run the bill drill and focus on the front sight and let the speed just happen. This is a way I practice getting better at tracking the sight. I will also do a bill drill with focus on the draw and shooting as fast as I can. This helps me learn to pull the trigger faster. Subconsciously im still doing everything I should. The most important thing is to determine what you are trying to accomplish with your drill and only judge that one thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuckinMS Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 On 5/18/2017 at 2:11 PM, benos said: The OG Bill Drill is shot at 7 yards. All A's in 2 seconds is goal. When you can do that consistently, then start move the target to 10 yards, and so on. Eventually my goal was to shoot all A's in 2 seconds at 15 yards, cold turkey. Or in other words, all A's in 2 seconds for the first 6 shots of the practice session. That's tough. Only did it once I think. Cold turkey is a true reflection of your current skill level as BE has pointed out. Hopefully we all get more consistent,faster, and so forth as the practice session carries on, but a more true measurement of improvement is where your "start point" times/hits are. Definitely a reason to keep a log book! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doublehelix Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Bob Stoeger recommends starting at 3 yards with a 1.7s goal, then 5 yards with a 1.8s goal, then out to 7 yards with a 2s goal (1 second draw, and 0.2s splits). This is always assuming Alphas at each distance. 3 yards seems awfully close to me!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superluckycat Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 3 hours ago, Doublehelix said: Bob Stoeger recommends starting at 3 yards with a 1.7s goal, then 5 yards with a 1.8s goal, then out to 7 yards with a 2s goal (1 second draw, and 0.2s splits). This is always assuming Alphas at each distance. 3 yards seems awfully close to me!!! I love his music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCTaylor Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 3 hours ago, Doublehelix said: Bob Stoeger recommends starting at 3 yards with a 1.7s goal, then 5 yards with a 1.8s goal, then out to 7 yards with a 2s goal (1 second draw, and 0.2s splits). This is always assuming Alphas at each distance. 3 yards seems awfully close to me!!! Shooting at 3 yards virtually eliminates the accuracy requirements; requiring you to focus on grip, draw, and trigger pull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbu Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 On 08/21/2017 at 0:02 PM, superluckycat said: I love his music. Lol. Me too. Favorite was that song about liberals; "Get out of Denver". His bro Ben is pretty good on the 9mm hand harp too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perttime Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 On 8/21/2017 at 8:20 PM, SCTaylor said: Shooting at 3 yards virtually eliminates the accuracy requirements; requiring you to focus on grip, draw, and trigger pull. You can still miss the A zone at 3 yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCTaylor Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 On 8/26/2017 at 2:38 AM, perttime said: You can still miss the A zone at 3 yards. Seriously? No shit. Thus why I said virtually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doublehelix Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 On 8/21/2017 at 1:02 PM, superluckycat said: I love his music. Dang! Haha... *Ben* Stoeger/*Bob* Vogel! Whatever. It was a "B" name, right? I'm an old guy, give me a break! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rondog Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 (edited) I typically don't shoot USPSA. 95% 3 gun. I shot bill drills today just to see if I could. 1st one cold was a 3.94 total with first shot at 1.96. Eesh. All A's though. Average splits @ .39 sec. oh yea. SW M&P 5" gen 1. 147 grn Edited November 26, 2017 by rondog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 (edited) Today I was doing them at 15 yards. 2.4 was a consistent all A hit time for a 15yrd bill drill. For the traditional 7 yard, at 1:19 in the video I do it in like 1.8something. That's about my best in Production stuff for a 7 yard bill drill. Ignore the other stuff that's mostly focused on doing a 4Aces and my reload. Edited November 28, 2017 by rowdyb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rondog Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Oh so humbling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casarez Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Damn man, nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doublehelix Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Dang. That's some awesome shooting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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