rmj339 Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 I have been shooting limited and am thinking about an open gun now and was wondering why I see more cmore dots than fastfire iii of delta points. What am I missing is one better for some reason. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyler2you Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 (edited) Probably has a lot to do with durability/reliability of the slide mounted optics. Competition shooters can put well over a thousand rounds a month through their guns and I'm not sure the current crop of slide mounted red dots can take the abuse (except maybe the Trijicon RMR). A frame mounted C-More doesn't take the same kind of pounding. C-More also gives a lot more variety with dot size and interchangeable diodes. Edited July 13, 2015 by tyler2you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 I haven't tried anything else, but my C-More has been perfect for 8 years now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 The CMore Slide Ride mounted horizontally to the frame puts the dot closest to the bore, with a big lens, durable body at a price ~$100 less than the micro dots. Most of my Open guns are setup this way, although I did recently get my hands on an RTS2 to try out on my Tanfoglio: The sight and mount weigh 2.6oz less, no left side blind spot and put the glass ~1/2" further back which seem to be good trade offs for having the dot ~1/4" higher off the bore. I haven't shot it yet, but I'm sure I'll be posting all about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troupe Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 C-Mores work. All though the STS has had plenty of problems. Look at what the top shooters shoot. There is a reason, and reliability is at the top. You can't win if you sight does not work !!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echotango Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 I recently went back to a slide ride on 2 open guns. I tried the RTS2 and even though I did not have any issues, I could not get out of the back of mind what if goes out during a match. Then having to send it back and wait. Also I like being able to change the dot size and the brightness is much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igolfat8 Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 I have 3 Burris Fast Fire IIIs. All have worked flawlessly for four years. I have not even replaced the batteries and I shoot a minimum of 3x a week year round. One is frame mounted and two are slide rides all on open guns and none have lost zero or ever hinted at failure. A buddy has a HUGE C-More (slide ride) on his 38 super and the C-More has developed cracks in the frame (twice). Just sayin' that the FF IIIs work too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimaryBruce Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 I have 3 Burris Fast Fire IIIs. All have worked flawlessly for four years. I have not even replaced the batteries and I shoot a minimum of 3x a week year round. One is frame mounted and two are slide rides all on open guns and none have lost zero or ever hinted at failure. A buddy has a HUGE C-More (slide ride) on his 38 super and the C-More has developed cracks in the frame (twice). Just sayin' that the FF IIIs work too. I am just beginning to get into the red dot/reflex dots on pistols game, and I'm quickly seeing that all of them can and will fail. If you look hard enough you'll find good and bad reviews on them all - including the one that's supposed to be the best of all, the RMR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin111 Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 (edited) I have a C-More Railway (Frame Mounted) , Fast Fire III (Slide Mounted), EOTECH XPS 2-0 (Bridge Mounted) and Redfield CounterStrike (mounted on a Tavor). The larger size of the C-More (glass not moa) allows me to keep the red-dot somewhere in the glass when running and gunning. The Fast Fire III, although very durable (3,000+ rounds on the slide of a 40sw) disappears while running and gunning and causes me wasted seconds trying to re-acquire it. Usually a lateral flip of the gun finds it, but at times the lateral flip evolves into a vertical flip before I can find it. The slide mount (not FF III issue) also has me waiting for the slide to return (or so I think) and is a psychological distraction. The EOTECH is bridge mounted on a Sig P229 and has a 65 moa and 1 moa dot in circle and is the fastest (and heaviest) reddot I have. It is always in the glass (65 moa) so pinpointing the focus is just subconscious and natural. The Redfield CounterStrike is a fine for Close Qtr acquisition (not competition). Has Red/Green Dot and laser and works with a Tavor since the front Iron Sight is flush with rail and doesn't block the laser, AR folks experience the laser being block by the front sight. If I could have the C-More with the XPS 2.0 reticle set-up, I would be extremely happy. Edited July 19, 2015 by Austin111 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawmangr Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 I just started shooting open division this year, so the red dot is a new experience for me. Still not used to it, but I'm getting there. I have a C-More and love it. Simple. Durable. Reliable. Everything I would want in a dot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gng4life Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 The Cmores have been around the longest and just plain work. The only problems I've had is the switch needing replacement and I had a cracked body one time. The MRDs are really cool but have had too many reliability problems. I do have some but they are only used for experimentation or on .22 SC guns. Sent from the range Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkreutz Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 I used a Deltapoint for 2 years, never had to re-zero, one battery change. This year I went to a C-More on a new gun, the old gun sits in the safe. To me the target is much clearer and easier to acquire with the CMore (I just wish it had an "auto off" feature) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sdunsworth Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 I had a FFiii on my previous gun and appreciate the sideways Cmore on my new gun more for the reasons stated above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAF1680 Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 I just changed from the upright to a 90 degree mount and it is easier for me to transition from iron sight to open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronicTwitch Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 The CMore Slide Ride mounted horizontally to the frame puts the dot closest to the bore, with a big lens, durable body at a price ~$100 less than the micro dots. Most of my Open guns are setup this way, although I did recently get my hands on an RTS2 to try out on my Tanfoglio: The sight and mount weigh 2.6oz less, no left side blind spot and put the glass ~1/2" further back which seem to be good trade offs for having the dot ~1/4" higher off the bore. I haven't shot it yet, but I'm sure I'll be posting all about it. Anyone have comments on the rts2 vs sts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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