Vlad Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 When can I buy this baby???? And how much?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madone Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 Hmm, very interesting! Anyone else have any info on this attachment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricW Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 I want to know who the bonehead is that posted *that* picture instead of walking over to the opposite side and taking a picture, so we could see how the doggone thing is rigged up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madone Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 Good point Eric...good point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1911user Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 The dillonprecision.com website is down for me. I wonder if they are doing a website update with new product(s) from the SHOT show? This casefeeder might be something needed since the Hornady progressive press has been getting enough good reviews for long enough that it may be impacting 550 sales. I've seen plenty of comments like "650 features for a 550 price and you can add a case feeder later, you can't do that with a 550". I'm not giving up my 550 anytime soon, but the bad reviews on the Hornady press are way down compared to a few years ago. Bring on the case feeders! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Posted January 31, 2005 Author Share Posted January 31, 2005 More general Shot Show picks from GunBlast: http://www.gunblast.com/SHOT_Show_2005.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhunter Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 I have a Casefeeder on my 650, LOVE IT!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriggerT Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 Man, a case feeder for the 550!?! Count me in! When, Where, and How Much? Off to the Dillon site I go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtr Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 Hard to believe that nobody else has any info on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriggerT Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 I called Dillon, and the customer service guy I talked to said that he knew they had been working on one, but that the higher up's haven't said anything more to them about it. Didn't know anything about when it might be out, or pricing. I am hanging on the edge of my reloading bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimel Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 OMG! Well, the case feeder for the 650 is $180 (more or less). I doubt one for the 550B would be much beyond that. I'll keep the AmEx idling just in case.... Some year I just have to get to the SHOT show....dammit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Orr Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 Looks kool enough to spend the bucks on just for the visual. I wonder how much it will speed up the loading process? How much time do you save with the case feeder on a 650? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimel Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 It should speed things up a bit. Right hand stays on the handle. Flip the shell plate one slot, place the bullet, pull the handle, repeat. Should at least be less tiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1911user Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 After thinking about it, Dillon must be concerned about something to release a factory casefeeder for the 550B. With the 550's lower cost and easier/cheaper caliber conversions, this casefeeder could hurt the sales for the 650. Wouldn't it be interesting if someone else was about to release a good casefeeder for the 550 and Dillon decided to do it first? I love the idea of a 550 casefeeder, but the why of it makes me curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Orr Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 After thinking about it, Dillon must be concerned about something to release a factory casefeeder for the 550B. With the 550's lower cost and easier/cheaper caliber conversions, this casefeeder could hurt the sales for the 650. Wouldn't it be interesting if someone else was about to release a good casefeeder for the 550 and Dillon decided to do it first? I love the idea of a 550 casefeeder, but the why of it makes me curious. Some time back there was a thread about someone who used to work for Dillion quitting and working on a casefeeder??? Was that also for the 550? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimel Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 (edited) Thought that was a bullet feeder, not a case feeder. And if the long rumored bullet feeder for the 650 is in the immediate future then having a case feeder for the 550 won't hurt sales. Besides, the 650 still has auto indexing, another station for a powder check or whatever and so on. Either way, they stand to sell a PILE of case feeders for the 550. I know someone who will be watching the Dillon site several times a day. Maybe Brian will have some inside intel for us tomorrow. Edited February 1, 2005 by kimel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 I wish they would make one for the Square Deal B..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingerjg Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 I gotta get me one of those. I cant right now warrent getting a 650 to replace my 550 just to have the case feeder. Id love to be able to use a case feeder on the 550. It would really speed up and make loading more enjoyable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1911user Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 That makes sense, Dillon introduces a 550 casefeeder just so they can sell a bunch of them; what a business concept I'll stop trying to be a business analyst and go back to my day job now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gun Geek Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 Looks kool enough to spend the bucks on just for the visual. I wonder how much it will speed up the loading process? How much time do you save with the case feeder on a 650? On the 650 I'd say the case feeder is worth 15% at a minimum (in speed). But there's more to it than that: 1) Improved Saftey Anytime you can reduce the number of steps performed by a human, the safer the operation will be. Maybe not on the 50th round but on the 500th, you betcha! Also few steps mean you can give more attention to watching what's going on with the press, and additional important, if soft, saftey advantage. 2) Expanded capability The increased speed form both the feeder and the auto indexing lets me do stuff like run brass through twice - 1st run deprimes, then I tumble (cleans out the primer pocket, and I catch crappy brass). 2nd run sizes & loads. Press is smoother and easier to run. This mode is particularly useful for rifle brass. The CF for the 550 sounds like a great thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Sweeney Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 I saw the gizmo at the show. It is a prototype, machined from barstock, as a test and demonstration of principle rig. The interest is quite high, and judging from the commetns I heard while in and around the Dillon booth, a sure thing for sales. But until it is bulletproof Dillon isn't making any promises. Except that I'll get one as soon as it is ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD45 Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 I wish they would make one for the Square Deal B..... You got that right! Even a smaller cheaper case-feeder on the Square Deal B would make it load faster than a 550. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benos Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 Or course I've heard rumors of this... A casefeeder without auto-indexing - I wonder if the theoretical improvement in speed would be worth not only the cost, but the increased maintenance, changeover time, and tunning? Not sure, just wondering... And I wonder about it from a marketing standpoint as well. It will definitely dent the 650's sales, although you still won't have an extra toolhead station for a Powder Check, and it still won't be nearly as fast as the 650/w/auto-indexing. be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1911user Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 Would Dillon ever sell a combo casefeeder/auto-index mod for the 550? Dillon apparently has a prototype casefeeder working well or it wouldn't be at the SHOT show. If the feeder rises/falls with the shellpate, I have an idea for an auto-index that could be added to a 550 with slight mods. What I'm thinking of would require a casefeeder for practical operation. It'd load as quick as a 650, but would it ever be sold? If I can think of how to do it, so can Dillon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimel Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 I suspect the market segmet Dillon is going after are the guys that have a 550 and are never going to move to a 650...which has got to be a pretty big part of the market. So, how to get more $$$ pried out of their wallets? Make new toys for the press they already have! I have thus far personally spoken to several 550 owners, guys that have had 550 presses for years, who would pre-order one today if they could. As far as speed increases...this all depends on how the case feeder operates. If you can leave the right hand on the handle and just move the shell plate and place a bullet with the left hand then there will be some speed gained and ergonomically it is a big advantage. Even though you might think you are placing the bullet and inserting a new case at the same time you probably aren't. Time how fast you flip the shell plate and place a bullet. Now time this including the placement of a new case on the shell plate. Now, if you have to remove your right hand and push a knob or throw a lever or do anything else to make the case hit the shell plate then the case feeder is just a toy. Anyone that saw it in action care to enlighten us as to how it functions? The lads at Dillon aren't stupid. If they bring this to market they have a good reason for it. Just given the reaction in this thread and what seems to have come out of SHOT it looks like they will sell a pile of these...if they come to market. Don't forget the 650 bullet feeder that was a strong rumor about a year ago. Pictures and the whole 9 yards but that still isn't on the market as far as I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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