amish_rabbi Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 (edited) Question for you guys, I'm debating building a double stack gun, but I want to know which has the thinnest grip, para, Caspian (same mags, not sure if its the same OD grip), SVI steel or PT steel Edited August 18, 2014 by amish_rabbi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dranoel Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 (edited) My Caspian has no grips on it, per se. It comes with a die cut grip-tape wrap that goes all the way around. I am so far finding it very comfortable, though different from my single stacks. You can get a very thin wooden grip from Caspian that, as I understand screws straight into the frame with no bushings. BTW: width is 1.060 for the grip frame. about 1.10 with grip tape. Edited August 18, 2014 by Dranoel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotrodder Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Caspian. Have 2 with grip tape and really like the feel. FWIW Caspian mags can require quite a bit of tuning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aircooled6racer Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Hello: I have a gun with the old aluminum STI thin grip. It is very thin and has not broken yet after 1000 rounds or so. The trick is to fit them. I know of a couple I fitted with over 20,000 rounds now. They don't make this grip any longer. Thanks, Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amish_rabbi Posted August 19, 2014 Author Share Posted August 19, 2014 I need a steel grip, trying to make a limited gun that balances/recoils as close as possible to my single stack gun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dranoel Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 I need a steel grip, trying to make a limited gun that balances/recoils as close as possible to my single stack gun Then your best bet is Caspian. But in my opinion Caspian is always the best bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trp Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Caspian for sure I've shot one for a year and it's great but limited is just to fast for me do I'm selling it's in the classfieds under canyon creek caspian if your interested or want to check out sone pics Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haraise Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Could someone actually put a tape measure around it to see what the diameter of a Caspian frame is? I could do the same with my STI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amish_rabbi Posted August 19, 2014 Author Share Posted August 19, 2014 actually more useful would be tracing the outside on to a piece of paper and having a ruler or caliper in it to scale. I found that a standard STI grip is the same width as a standard double stack, but much more square Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjts Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 You may want to consider a standard STI grip with a grip reduction performed by an aftermarket company like Advanced Performance. You can also reduce the grip yourself if you have the time and patience to do it. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amish_rabbi Posted August 20, 2014 Author Share Posted August 20, 2014 You may want to consider a standard STI grip with a grip reduction performed by an aftermarket company like Advanced Performance. You can also reduce the grip yourself if you have the time and patience to do it. Mike would work, but I need the gun to balance like my single stack, so unless I can find a very heavy brass mag well, plastic grips are out of the running. my single stack weights in at 46oz, short dust cover, bushing barrel and tungsten guide rod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3djedi Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Check out a tanfoglio witness elite limited with eric gruafel aluminum grips. Almost to thin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unregistered Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Caspian grips are much thinner than any STI grip. They are also longer from the front to rear. More "rectangle" feeling than the "square" STI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe D Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 I could be wrong on this, but I think the STI/SVI grip/gun was designed around the .45ACP round. The Caspian around the 38 Super. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshidaex Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 single stack weights in at 46oz, short dust cover, bushing barrel and tungsten guide rodA bit heavy for a Single Stack division gun. Perfect as a Classic division gun. Getting back to your topic, a brass magwell from Dawson and a plastic grip would be close in balance. The feel would be different though. You could use one of those 1911 grips from DS Perman to make your 1911 feel like your 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMike Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 I could be wrong on this, but I think the STI/SVI grip/gun was designed around the .45ACP round. The Caspian around the 38 Super. You are correct about the STI/SVI Sir. I am not sure about the Caspian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amish_rabbi Posted August 20, 2014 Author Share Posted August 20, 2014 classic is exactly what it is for single stack was more to describe the configuration not the division. you sure USPSA cant just remove the weight limit? It would make it a whole lot easier for me that way lol. I want a 2011 to feel like a 1911, not the other way around. The whole point of this is that I need to shoot more matches and that means shooting USPSA ones across the border. But since I live above Washington and not New York no one shoots limited 10 and I'm not about to shoot my single stack and loose 11 rounds capacity per mag in straight limited. So the idea is to buy/build a limited gun that feels as close to my classic div gun as possible since that is my preferred division. I believe you are right about the Caspian/SVI stuff, that is why a Caspian ends up with less .40 and a thinner grip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hercster Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Check out a tanfoglio witness elite limited with eric gruafel aluminum grips. Almost to thin! I I love them and have them on my Xtreme LC. I just got a Limited Pro and the stock wood grips make me feel like I'm trying to corral a beer barrel. I slendarized them and think they look pretty good but there may be another set of Xtremes in my life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v1911 Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 I want a 2011 to feel like a 1911, not the other way around. Have you shot a 2011 before? Most people that have, prefer the grip of their 2011 over the 1911. To answer your question, On another forum a member did trace the OD of the 1911 and 2011 grip. At the widest points they were the same, but the 2011 was most rectangle overall as opposed to the 1911's oval. If i can find the post I'll link it unless Quack finds this post first and reposts it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haraise Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 It's here: http://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=376918 What's really important is circumference. The plastic STI grip can go down to 5.25" with a grip reduction, which is very tiny for wide and long double stack. It'll never feel like a 1911, though. That elliptical shape is unbeatable for sheer comfort. Maybe people who like the Glock will prefer the 2011 over the 1911. Not sure who else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amish_rabbi Posted August 20, 2014 Author Share Posted August 20, 2014 yep very sure that I prefer a the 1911 grip to the 2011 one. Can't beat how a 1911 fits my hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trp Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 That's why I got the caspian can feel exactly like a 1911 depending on the grips on the 1911 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcobean Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 My son shoots a Caspian 9mm in Limited (minor). The grip on that gun is absolutely awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haraise Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 My son shoots a Caspian 9mm in Limited (minor). The grip on that gun is absolutely awesome. Would you measure the circumference on that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerTrace Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 (edited) Question for you guys, I'm debating building a double stack gun, but I want to know which has the thinnest grip, para, Caspian (same mags, not sure if its the same OD grip), SVI steel or PT steel Try to find a small Steel Infinity grip. They are noticeably smaller than the standard, though I don't know how it actually measures up against a Caspain. I've owned a Double Stack Para and it felt larger than any of my Infinitys. http://www.sviguns.com/1101.php?indx=10 Edited August 21, 2014 by rangertrace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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