bodene 5 Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 anyone use this powder for 9mm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 I use 3.2 gr with 130 LSWC, goes 1000.8 fps. In 5" 1911. Can go higher if desired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodene 5 Posted April 6, 2014 Author Share Posted April 6, 2014 Say maybe with a 147 bayou out of a stock g 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltdmstr Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Friend of mine uses it w/147g and it shoots very soft. Think he said 3.2g, but not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 147gr @ 1.136" over 3.0gr Clays makes 133pf out of my 4.5" CZ barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeeZer Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 3.6gr under 124gr Berry's at 1.12" OAL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justaute Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 I used to shoot the combination of Clays/Bayou 135gr. It was soft and quite accurate. Though, there are a number of factors to consider before you proceed with heavier bullets. OAL, PF, chamber depth of your pistol. Check for any primer-flow as that could be a sign of pressure. Clays can spike-up pretty quickly. YMMV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougCarden Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 There are better powders to use that will give you a soft impulse, but mostly CLAYS in 9mm is very inaccurate compared to powders like W231, Titegroup, Solo 1000, VV 320...... DougC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lifeislarge Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 (edited) So WTF is Clays good for? Apparently you can't use it for .40 major, and now it's inaccurate in 9mm. I'm picking up a 4lb jug today and was going to use it for 9mm minor loads. Should I just get it for the trade value? If so, why the hell are so many people geeked out over it??? Edited April 6, 2014 by Lifeislarge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oak hill Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 So WTF is Clays good for? Apparently you can't use it for .40 major, and now it's inaccurate in 9mm. I'm picking up a 4lb jug today and was going to use it for 9mm minor loads. Should I just get it for the trade value? If so, why the hell are so many people geeked out over it??? I agree that Clays might not be the best option for 9mm, but it has been more readily available, at least around here, which is a factor in the current market and it will give you decent performance. Everyone has different expectations, I suggest trying for yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTOGuy06 Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Clays is great for a 230 lead/moly coated lead in 45. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowenbuilt Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 I found that Clays prefers plain or coated lead in all of my 9mm's. I worked with this powder for several weeks with plated and jacket bullets but never found a load that I considered accurate. Some of the targets looked like they were shot with a 12 ga. You may have better luck as each gun is different. I spent so much time on this because of the soft recoil impulse. Clays really shines in .40 and .45, in these calibers it is tough to find a powder any softer and clean shooting. I would be interested in what you find with yours, please let us know if you find a really good combination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodene 5 Posted April 6, 2014 Author Share Posted April 6, 2014 normally use 231 which works ok but you can not find it also have a lb of wst Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltdmstr Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 If you want to look at other powders, I use 4.0 - 4.2g N320 w/124g jacketed and in a 1911 it feels like a .22. But then again, so does my friend's load with Clays and 147s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BostonBullit Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 So WTF is Clays good for? Apparently you can't use it for .40 major, and now it's inaccurate in 9mm. I'm picking up a 4lb jug today and was going to use it for 9mm minor loads. Should I just get it for the trade value? If so, why the hell are so many people geeked out over it??? Great for .40 minor IMO.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lifeislarge Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 I only shoot .40 major, and 9mm minor with 147 gr plated. I'm picking up 4 pounds of Clays and a pound of TiteGroup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v1911 Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 I run 2.8gr of clays under Bayou 147gr at 1.145 OAL. I get 130pf out of my 5" 2011. While I'm no bullseye shooter, my gun and that load is more accurate than I and more than accurate enough for IDPA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregshin Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 I tried 3.0 grains of clays with a plated 147gr at 1.135 and found it lacking in accuracy. Switched to ramshot competition and haven't looked back. I heard clays is great with 45acp tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justaute Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 (edited) One more data-point...out of my CZ Shadow with 4.7" Australian barrel. *Bayou 135gr *3.2gr of Clays *1.135 OAL *0.379 crimp *PF= ~130 Edited April 6, 2014 by justaute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 CZ Shadow with 4.7" Australian barrel Thank you for trusting a tape measure over the nonsense CZ USA and CZC continue to perpetuate Very nice shooting by the way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBBB Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 G17 (factory barrel), COAL:1.145" 3.1gr gives 131pf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZombieHunter Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 So WTF is Clays good for? Apparently you can't use it for .40 major, and now it's inaccurate in 9mm. I'm picking up a 4lb jug today and was going to use it for 9mm minor loads. Should I just get it for the trade value? If so, why the hell are so many people geeked out over it??? I am very good friends with a well known USPSA/IPSC shooter that shoots 40 cal strictly with Clays with Major loads. Shoots tens of thousands of rounds with it. You need to use 10mm mags and load long. He makes Major without an issue. And shoots 4-6" groups at 50 yards in his Limited/SS guns. I've also ran 124 and 147 gr with Clays in 9mm and never had an accuracy issue. I think you'll find you need to formulate your own opinion on most issues like powder vs. accuracy. Some people just can't shoot and blame it on everything but themselves. I personally use Clays (or ClayDot) in 9mm, 40 and 45 and it works great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick88 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 I have found that when I'm having a bad day and my shooting sucks I can blame it on bullets powder gun etc. Of course its never me :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joedirt Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 So WTF is Clays good for? Apparently you can't use it for .40 major, and now it's inaccurate in 9mm. I'm picking up a 4lb jug today and was going to use it for 9mm minor loads. Should I just get it for the trade value? If so, why the hell are so many people geeked out over it??? NO, you should send it to me. you don't want that.. where the heck di you find clays? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12glocks Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 So WTF is Clays good for? Apparently you can't use it for .40 major, and now it's inaccurate in 9mm. I'm picking up a 4lb jug today and was going to use it for 9mm minor loads. Should I just get it for the trade value? If so, why the hell are so many people geeked out over it??? Where Clays really shines is in the 12 gauge light target load arena. Without any data to back it up I would say it is easily in the top 3 propellants for clay target shooters. It is one of my favorite propellants for that. I have an 8 pound unopened keg of it in my reloading room and a partial but I am not using it for pistol but I would if I had too. I too found it to "spike" quickly as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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