CZ85Combat Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 A good video for new re-loaders to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Sounds like "good video for ALL reloaders to watch" Thanks for sharing ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangeJunkie Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 That's a bad day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcracco Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 I doubt a long OAL caused that malfunction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davisjarrett Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 I doubt a long OAL caused that malfunction. Why not? Also seems a little more than a malfunction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fireman489 Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 ouch ! makes ya stop & think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinceU1 Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 I'd be real interested in his load as I'm starting down the 9mmMajor route myself. Anybody got info? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWFAN Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Setback or double charge would be my guess. Long OALs usually just keep the gun out of battery and it wont fire. Sent from my ADR6425LVW using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougCarden Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Ditto. A minor load loaded long with the bullet pushed back won't be a 60k psi load, which is what proof loads are, and the chambers will handle that. Unless the barrel metallurgy is bad, then it was a stout double charge. I can't wait to hear from all the experts who watch the video now.... DougC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poppa Bear Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 (edited) Do not know the powder but he had to be close to a compressed charge already. I would bet on some form of set back or a bad case. Having realized it is a steel match , I would go with a double charge, or a bad case. Edited March 5, 2013 by Poppa Bear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Compressed charge minor load? What about a double charge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 He said in the video he was running minor so I would vote it was a double charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56hawk Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 It takes some extreme pressure to blow a 1911 barrel in 9mm. My guess would be like others that this was a double charge. Wonder if he was loading on a 550 or other non indexing press. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bugsy Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Double or Overcharge. A longer OAL reduces pressure and increases the chance of misfeed. He said in the video he was running minor so I would vote it was a double charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who Knew Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Don't know what caused it but I found it encouraging that he had the presence of mind to keep the muzzle down range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solvability Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 The shooter handled the event very safely - kudos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWFAN Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 The shooter handled the event very safely - kudos. Yeah Sure.. Except when he turned up range still holding the gun.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 The shooter handled the event very safely - kudos. Yeah Sure.. Except when he turned up range still holding the gun.. Yeah, I found that quite odd. It's like nobody cared since he just survived a scary event? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who Knew Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 The shooter handled the event very safely - kudos. Yeah Sure.. Except when he turned up range still holding the gun.. I see what you're talking about at the end as he's walking off. It looks like he's under the command of the RO and yes they probably should have had him holster the gun. I was referring to the actual malfunction before anyone knew what had happened. As soon as the malfunction occurred he turned his body but still had the presence to keep the gun down range. That's what I found encouraging. I hope to never see this happen to anyone or myself but if it does while I'm present I hope whoever it happens to is aware enough to remain safe. I have seen RO's walk someone to a safe area with gun unholstered after a malfunction and in those experiences I never felt it to be unsafe. I'm not a certified RO/SO so I'm unsure of the proper protocol in a situation like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWFAN Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 The shooter handled the event very safely - kudos. Yeah Sure.. Except when he turned up range still holding the gun.. Yeah, I found that quite odd. It's like nobody cared since he just survived a scary event? Ideally, we would have seen someone try to rack and check clear, then holster. I might have been OK with not holstering if I had seen someone check for clear, but I didnt. I don't know SC rules, so it may have been legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solvability Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 I had the impression that he was fully under the direction of the RO - once the facts and safety are determined then the gun is safe, but we do not see the whole story on tape and he was fully aware and in control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 I think protocol would dictate to either holster or bag the gun to leave the COF. Yes, the gun was safe but you can still get penalized (DQ'ed for unsafe gun handling) even with a safe gun. I realize the topic is about the kaboom but once you are trained as an RO safety issues have a way of jumping out at you when they happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 I can't quote for some reason. The thread may be getting locked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Merricks Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 I can't quote for some reason. The thread may be getting locked? Just cleaned up a bit. We all need reminding of the below forum guidelines at times. Please be polite. Or if not polite, at least respectful. No bickering. Regardless of the subject matter. Antagonistic, offensive, or quarrelsome tones are not acceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 I'll try to keep a civil tone, but I really do want to know: does a longer OAL increase or decrease pressure? I'm just trying to get started in reloading, and since I don't have any primers, I can't run my own tests, so I'm looking to people I suspect know what they're doing to give me solid advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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