dforeid Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Folks, I have a Sig 1911. I am new to reloading and have picked up some 230 RN Bayou bullets, new Starline brass and Clays powder, two questions: Do you have a good recipe - can't find this combo in my new Lyman book. Also, I have Federal primers available locally - which ones would you suggest? Thanks, Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammer1911 Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 federal lrg pistol primers start with 4.6 grs of clays (run over chrono) very soft shooting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8ring Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 I think Jammer 1911 meant to say 3.6gr Clays under the 230gr lead RN bullet. The maximum book load for Clay's with a 230gr lead bullet is 4.0 gr. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dforeid Posted January 12, 2013 Author Share Posted January 12, 2013 Thanks Jammer and 8ring... I appreciate your feedback and knowledge. I just want to do it right. I have a Dillon 550B and I want to do things right...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trp Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Yeah 3.6 is what I use,4.6 will blow your gun up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Msfinlayson Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 I just tested my 230gr Bayou bullets with Clsys this week in my Sti Spartan OAL 1.250 WLP 3.6gr of clays Avg of 20 =716 fps 3.8gr of clays Avg of 20 =745 fps SD=11 ES=38 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyT Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 The Hodgdon website should have data for Clays with 230 gr. lead bullets. I have only used Clays for mild bullseye pistol loads with the 200 gr. Speer LSWC bullet at ca 720 fps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Studlee Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 I'm using 3.9grns of Clays with OAL 1.250, 230 Bayou. I average 735fps out of my SA XDm 45 (4.5" barrel). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcc7x7 Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 3.9 to 4.0 grs of clays with a 230 lead bullet at appox 1.240-50 is the "en quote" standard load for guys shooting uspsa single stack. Everybody I know shoots that load. Like stated before its soft shooting and always make major power factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueeyedme Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Bayou 230 has been my goto USPSA bullet for 18 months now. 1.25 OAL works great in my Les Baer....I can't speak for Clays as I run it over N310. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike3232 Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 I use 3.7 out of a gold cup. Very very soft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
practical_man Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 For 230 grain bullets I use 4.1 grains of Clays. Both loads are exceptionally accurate to 50 yards. -john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S391 Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 I'm running Federal primers and 4.0 grains of clays under a 230 gr Bayou Bullet in my 625... very soft shooting and pretty darn accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger49931 Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 (edited) BC bullet and 3.6 of clays and i got this 5 shot group at 50 feet but should be good .. Edited February 6, 2013 by tiger49931 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docatru Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 3.6 Clays. 1.25 OAL works splendidly in my 1911's and functions with standard recoil spring weights. The stiff recoil springs in my FNP-45 needs 4.1 Clays to cycle reliably. One nice thing about Bayou at higher velocities is minimal smoke and no worries about possible leading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasquatch Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 I just tested my 230gr Bayou bullets with Clsys this week in my Sti Spartan OAL 1.250 WLP 3.6gr of clays Avg of 20 =716 fps 3.8gr of clays Avg of 20 =745 fps SD=11 ES=38 I use 3.8gr of clays with Bayou 230gr and get about the same results. This has been my absolute favorite load for competition use. People shoot that out of my 1911 and they almost can't believe it's a 45. To me, it shoots softer than a lot of the 40's I've tried out of other guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMadWorld Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 I just tested my 230gr Bayou bullets with Clsys this week in my Sti Spartan OAL 1.250 WLP 3.6gr of clays Avg of 20 =716 fps 3.8gr of clays Avg of 20 =745 fps SD=11 ES=38 I use 3.8gr of clays with Bayou 230gr and get about the same results. This has been my absolute favorite load for competition use. People shoot that out of my 1911 and they almost can't believe it's a 45. To me, it shoots softer than a lot of the 40's I've tried out of other guns. I am there with you. My buddies have a hard time believing my ACP major loads with Clays are that soft. They have threatened to pull out a chrono on me at the local matches even! I do feel that the felt recoil with the Clays at major in ACP is less overall than the major 40 loads I have using 231. And of course, dad is still up in arms that I would use anything other than Bullseye in 45. He even gave me an old pound can a few years ago (was marked $8 for the pound) in hopes that I would switch. Can is still sealed in the back of the powder box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdawgbeav Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 This is some good info, thanks for everyone that has chimed in. For me I'm currently on the waiting list for Bayou and loading with Bullseye. I know a lot of competitiors are using Clays and I'm going to check it out at some point. If anyone cares a 5-gun Expert friend of mine is loading 230gr. Bayou RNs with 4.3 gr. of Bullseye and an OAL of 1.23... just throwing it out there. I didn;t ask what is chrono was on these, but his whole team uses this recipe so I imagine it makes PF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammer1911 Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Yes 3.6 grs, fat fingeritis strikes again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
area51 Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 I've had good luck with 3.6 grains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wes777 Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 4.0 gn clays at 1.25 gave me 180 pf. Fkn accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerZSquid Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 I've been loading 4.0gr of clays over a 230gr lrn bullet It is super soft shooting but when I chrono'd them they were in the 600-700fps arena. Very slow. I don't know if I'm loading them too long or if I need to double check my powder scale. I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CocoBolo Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 JerZSquid - You should look for about 750 fps average. I have two scales and check one against the other. I do the quick checks on the electronic and the final on the beam. You can lose about 60 fps by over crimping, and if you are using a Lee FCD on those bullets you could be under sizing them and losing a bunch of FPS. I use 3.8gr of Clays with a 230 RN Precision or Bayou but the OAL is 1.20 to 1.22. SWC''s on the other hand are 1.260. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerZSquid Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 I'm using a Redding Taper crimp die and measure .471 across the case mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockets Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 (edited) Yeah 3.6 is what I use,4.6 will blow your gun up True...Careful with clays. Edited July 23, 2013 by Rockets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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