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Shooting a classifier last night, has 2 strings of 6 rounds each. Production shooter shoots all 12 rounds without reloading a magazine between strings. No competitive advantage gained, so what is the call or non call?

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Advantage or not that is a bump to Open for sure

6.2.5.1 However, if a competitor fails to satisfy the equipment or other

requirements of a declared Division during a course of fire, the

competitor will be placed in Open Division, if available, otherwise the competitor will shoot the match for no score.

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What is the key word here? Classifier?

Some clubs want to speed up the process and do away with unnecessary time being spent on loading mags while off the clock. Since not competitive advantage is gained, it is strictly a time saving move.

SO..........................

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What is the key word here? Classifier?

Some clubs want to speed up the process and do away with unnecessary time being spent on loading mags while off the clock. Since not competitive advantage is gained, it is strictly a time saving move.

SO..........................

Uh, no.

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There was a thread recently about some IDPA clubs doing this at their matches to speed things along. But that was IDPA.

Sorry but there is no reason to start bending or breaking rues just to speed things up. Not in USPSA anyway.

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APP D4.9 Maximum ammunition capacity Yes, maximum 10 rounds loaded in any magazine after the start signal.When the buzzer goes off, no mag can have more than 10 rounds or off to open. You can use an 11 round mag at Make Ready. You can only insert a 10 round mag for an unloaded start.

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lol. it's so easy to just switch mags, there aren't really any significant timesavings, and (as you can see), panties get easily wadded by things that violate the letter of the rule while keeping entirely to the spirit of the rule.

besides, I practice my draws and dryfire maneuvers with 10 rds in the magazine. it would throw me off to 12 or 6 in, so i must reload between strings for maximum competive performance. :cheers:

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What is the key word here? Classifier?

Some clubs want to speed up the process and do away with unnecessary time being spent on loading mags while off the clock. Since not competitive advantage is gained, it is strictly a time saving move.

SO..........................

If the shooter needs to load mags between strings, they probably don't have enough mags to finish a 32 round field course.

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Shooting a classifier last night, has 2 strings of 6 rounds each. Production shooter shoots all 12 rounds without reloading a magazine between strings. No competitive advantage gained, so what is the call or non call?

Open for sure. There is a competitive advantage gained. The extra couple of rounds results in a slightly heavier pistol.While it may not be enough to actually make a difference, but a heavier pistol has less percieved recoil.

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What is the key word here? Classifier?

Some clubs want to speed up the process and do away with unnecessary time being spent on loading mags while off the clock. Since not competitive advantage is gained, it is strictly a time saving move.

SO..........................

If the shooter needs to load mags between strings, they probably don't have enough mags to finish a 32 round field course.

Hmmmmmm........Since the discussion is concerning an IDPA classifier and according to the IDPA Rule Book, the maximum number of rounds a stage can have is 18, I do not understand how a 32 round field course enters into the discussion.

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What is the key word here? Classifier?

Some clubs want to speed up the process and do away with unnecessary time being spent on loading mags while off the clock. Since not competitive advantage is gained, it is strictly a time saving move.

SO..........................

If the shooter needs to load mags between strings, they probably don't have enough mags to finish a 32 round field course.

Hmmmmmm........Since the discussion is concerning an IDPA classifier and according to the IDPA Rule Book, the maximum number of rounds a stage can have is 18, I do not understand how a 32 round field course enters into the discussion.

Actually, since this is the USPSA/IPSC Rules subforum and we're talking about Production Division....

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What is the key word here? Classifier?

Some clubs want to speed up the process and do away with unnecessary time being spent on loading mags while off the clock. Since not competitive advantage is gained, it is strictly a time saving move.

SO..........................

If the shooter needs to load mags between strings, they probably don't have enough mags to finish a 32 round field course.

Hmmmmmm........Since the discussion is concerning an IDPA classifier and according to the IDPA Rule Book, the maximum number of rounds a stage can have is 18, I do not understand how a 32 round field course enters into the discussion.

hmm.... OP said Production. Is Production a Division in IDPA?

And this thread is in USPSA Rules, Not the IDPA Rules section.

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What is the key word here? Classifier?

Some clubs want to speed up the process and do away with unnecessary time being spent on loading mags while off the clock. Since not competitive advantage is gained, it is strictly a time saving move.

SO..........................

If the shooter needs to load mags between strings, they probably don't have enough mags to finish a 32 round field course.

Hmmmmmm........Since the discussion is concerning an IDPA classifier and according to the IDPA Rule Book, the maximum number of rounds a stage can have is 18, I do not understand how a 32 round field course enters into the discussion.

Where did you come up with any mention of IDPA?

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What is the key word here? Classifier?

Some clubs want to speed up the process and do away with unnecessary time being spent on loading mags while off the clock. Since not competitive advantage is gained, it is strictly a time saving move.

SO..........................

If the shooter needs to load mags between strings, they probably don't have enough mags to finish a 32 round field course.

Hmmmmmm........Since the discussion is concerning an IDPA classifier and according to the IDPA Rule Book, the maximum number of rounds a stage can have is 18, I do not understand how a 32 round field course enters into the discussion.

What all those other guys said. :P

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There was a thread recently about some IDPA clubs doing this at their matches to speed things along. But that was IDPA.

Sorry but there is no reason to start bending or breaking rues just to speed things up. Not in USPSA anyway.

That's just for the classifier only in IDPA and it's to speed it up because some people don't have a lot of extra mags (unlike some of us :devil: ). But it's the only time it's allowed in IDPA.

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