Scott Steele Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 Twenty three six 23.60 twenty thirty six 20.36 Looking at the RO's timer is best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Cline Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 As stated above- nothing, I ask for clarrification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdphotoguy Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 This is the very reason why the person running the clipboard should repeat back everything the RO is calling out during scoring and both ROs should call out times as two zero point three six. Would that really make a difference in this case? The timer RO would hear back exactly what he/she just said, right? So, he/she would be happy that is was recorded right. ? No, what the timer RO called out is not the same as what I would have called back. Twenty three six, is not the same as two zero point three six. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewiston Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 Nothing. I ask you to clarify. Agreed. I would ask the other RO to read off the individual numbers: "two zero three six" or "two three six zero" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztecdriver Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 This is the very reason why the person running the clipboard should repeat back everything the RO is calling out during scoring and both ROs should call out times as two zero point three six. Would that really make a difference in this case? The timer RO would hear back exactly what he/she just said, right? So, he/she would be happy that is was recorded right. ? No. When I run clipboard I tend to change the structure of how I repeat things back to the RO to get them to think a second about what is being read back to them. For example. I always state the time such as : Range is clear. Time : one four point three six. If I hear that I'll say back fourteen point thirty six. When it sounds like what they said if its close their brain might not catch the difference. If you say it back completely different their mind has to kick in a second and think about the translation. This has helped catch numerous transposition errors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diehli Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 This is the very reason why the person running the clipboard should repeat back everything the RO is calling out during scoring and both ROs should call out times as two zero point three six. Would that really make a difference in this case? The timer RO would hear back exactly what he/she just said, right? So, he/she would be happy that is was recorded right. ? No. When I run clipboard I tend to change the structure of how I repeat things back to the RO to get them to think a second about what is being read back to them. For example. I always state the time such as : Range is clear. Time : one four point three six. If I hear that I'll say back fourteen point thirty six. When it sounds like what they said if its close their brain might not catch the difference. If you say it back completely different their mind has to kick in a second and think about the translation. This has helped catch numerous transposition errors That's a smart thing to do. Gonna incorporate that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Cline Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 Good thread, Flex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgkeller Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 As RO I always call out all the numbers individually with "point" where appropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sin-ster Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 Nothing without clarification. With the proverbial gun to my head and no clarification... Did the RO with the timer say: Twenty, three, six. (20.36) Or... Twenty-three, six. (23.60) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diehli Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 Or 23.06. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squishy Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 23.60 Then ask if was correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diehli Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 When the standard is that 2 digits follow the decimal, how are you all getting sixty (.60) from "six"? We record from zero to ninety-nine hundredths of a second on a score sheet. So, "twenty three six" = 23.06, barring a very long stage. "Twenty three sixty" = 23.60. And the only reason I didn't hyphenate "twenty three", is because we're working from a dry record in the OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillD Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 Is this a trick question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoMiE Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 You should add a poll 20.36 is what call it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdphotoguy Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 As with anything in life if you're not sure ask for clarification, don't assume. When running the clipboard I always try to see the timer, just to verify/double check. I'd hate like heck to give someone the wrong time or score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbbean Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 If I am the Range Officer on the timer and you are on the RO on the clip board... I call out the time of: Twenty Three Six What do you write down? Whatever you told me after I asked you to repeat the time, or whatever the timer said when I got close enough to read it. BB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vluc Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 If I am the Range Officer on the timer and you are on the RO on the clip board... I call out the time of: Twenty Three Six What do you write down? I would not call the time off like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 This is the very reason why the person running the clipboard should repeat back everything the RO is calling out during scoring and both ROs should call out times as two zero point three six. Would that really make a difference in this case? The timer RO would hear back exactly what he/she just said, right? So, he/she would be happy that is was recorded right. ? No. When I run clipboard I tend to change the structure of how I repeat things back to the RO to get them to think a second about what is being read back to them. For example. I always state the time such as : Range is clear. Time : one four point three six. If I hear that I'll say back fourteen point thirty six. When it sounds like what they said if its close their brain might not catch the difference. If you say it back completely different their mind has to kick in a second and think about the translation. This has helped catch numerous transposition errors That's a smart thing to do. Gonna incorporate that. This is how I have always done it. I tend to call out the score using, two zero three six. Then expect to hear it read back as twenty thirty six. I also present the timer to the CBRO while clearing the shooter and after I memorized the time. When I am the CBRO I write the time down when shown to me immediately after the shooter stops shooting. Then I wait for the RO to give me the time verbally. If it matches what I have I repeat it back as mentioned above. If it is not a match I get it cleared up right then and there with the RO. One thing that does throw me off my rhythm is for the CBRO to read me the time from the timer while I am clearing the shooter. The CBRO needs to yield to the RO and wait for input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motosapiens Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 Nothing. I ask you to clarify. +1 I would say 'twenty point three six' or 'twenty three point zero six' or whatever the actual number was, without ambiguity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herky Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 If I was in doubt after hearing what the timer RO said, I would stop the scoring process and look at the timer readout I have more time with the clipboard/plam, etc. than I do on the timer, and count the number of times on one hand that I did not see the time on the timer before writing anything down. This is a good discussion and points out the necessary cooperation between the two ROs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHA-LEE Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 When I am the timer RO, I always call out the time one digit at a time to eliminate this kind of issue. 20.36 would sound like, "Two, Zero, Three, Six". Then wait for the Clip Board RO to read it back to me for confirmation calling it back in the same one digit at a time format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlamoShooter Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 I would not write any thing down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin c Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 (edited) What Cha-Lee said is what just about everybody out our way does. We always call two places after the decimal. Sometimes I will call out double digit numbers before the decimal (when appropriate) and for the two place decimal. If, however, these are multiples of ten or number in the teens, I'll call, "three - zero" or "one - four" rather than "thirty" or "fourteen", which might get misheard as "thirteen" or "forty" respectively. Edited June 5, 2012 by kevin c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nik Habicht Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 If I am the Range Officer on the timer and you are on the RO on the clip board... I call out the time of: Twenty Three Six What do you write down? Nothing until you clarify. I'm not good with ROs who want to mix and match numbers. Either tell me "Twenty point thirty-six" or "two zero point three six." I'll either want to see the timer or hear that "point." If you call that, I'm generally good -- if you don't I'll make you stop and clarify..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nik Habicht Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 I agree with Will_M. 20.36 is what I would write down. That is also why I call out time as two zero three six. Eliminates all confusion. And based on that we could write down: 2.036 20.36 203.6 2036.00 Still confusing..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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