DarthMuffin Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 I'm curious about how USPSA would classify someone shooting this bullet with a built-in compensator. It looks like snake-oil to me and way too expensive to shoot in a match so I doubt we'd ever see one but it's the though exercise that counts ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshidaex Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amerflyer48 Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 I just don't see this being of any measurable advantage other than on paper,.. the bullet leaves way before any effect can be made to counter recoil it is just "pre-venting" some ( very little) gas before it uncorks... Comps work by gas column expanding and striking against baffles, not so much venting, which makes room for gas on subsequent shots IMHO Still as you have pointed out an interesting exercise in mental math John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Keen Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 "creating a muzzle brake effect perfectly symmetrical" My thought would be, if the muzzle brake effect was "perfectly symmetrical" how would that make any difference in recoil? We need a wall or two, like a baffle in a comp. or we need a vertical port to exhaust the gasses don't we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 I think it's hogwash....A way for someone to make a killing by selling a few hinky trinkets, to people who think that it may help them. Think about this....What happens when one of those perfectly symmetrical, calculated holes fills up with powder, or powder residue, as it's going down the pipe. When it gets to the end of the barrel, say only 2 of the 3 (or however many holes there are), are venting gas? Think it's gonna fly straight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRe Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Snake oil.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lneel Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Horsesheet...redirection of gas pressure after the bullet leaves the barrel could not affect recoil. Someone will say the bullet is still in the barrel for some time after the "compensating" holes are exposed but as the holes are equally spaced around the bullet any potential benefit gained would be offset by the downward pressure of the opposite hole(s). Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scffacenter1 Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 simple physics dictates that the thinking behind this design is flawed. When the bullet passes from the muzzle enough to clear these "compensating holes" the gas will escape in a somewhat circular pattern. The only resistance these gasses will experience will be the resistance between the expelled gas and air which would be minimal to begin with, but being in a complete ring around the bullet would neither decrease or increase recoil. IE compensated bullets belong in the same pile at vw bug radiators, 2x4 stretchers, and diesel spark plugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No.343 Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 I think it would look good in my wife's beads tray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztecdriver Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Agree with everyone else, but I would still answer the OP question - legal. The gun is unaltered and the bullet is one projectile, and because they really don't do anything at all - you're good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
want2race Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 I think it would look good in my wife's beads tray. Winner! Best response yet. Nevermind the cost, my simple-jack mind cannot see any benefit in terms of recoil management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 I think it would look good in my wife's beads tray. Yep...I sent my gf a link. She can choose to add it to her bead/necklace collection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DyNo! Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 (edited) Doesn't a compensator have to be attached to the firearm to have any perceivable effect? (Physically speaking) Edited December 7, 2011 by DyNo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Lord Gomer Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 From reading the page I don't think they are claiming the holes in the billet do as much as it nears the end of the barrel as they do before it actually enters the barrel. I spent more time than I want to admit making my wife a set of Montana Gold 55gr earings a couple of years ago. This would have been much easier! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Lord Gomer Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Can someone explain this picture to me? It looks like the bullet has just left the barrel and the hammer is back. Other fast motion stills I have seen just after firing never had time for the slide to move, much less recock the hammer. http://www.compbullet.com/images/45acp_rg.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schutzenmeister Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 The prohibitions in the appendicies relating to no compensators in certain divisions apply to the firearm, not the ammunition. Whether this snake oil is effective or not does not matter. The bullet is not part of the gun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMC Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 It will reduce recoil because those bullets are going to be really light in any given caliber because of all the holes cut into a non-lead solid alloy bullet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Was that domain register on April Fools. I managed to get a napkin before I spit my coffee all over my monitor. I'd certainly let you shoot it in Open, and I'd probably chrono you too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztecdriver Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 It will reduce recoil because those bullets are going to be really light in any given caliber because of all the holes cut into a non-lead solid alloy bullet They list them by weight... they'll weigh the same, or are you talking about the size of the bullet vs it's mass? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skydiver Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 From the same website... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DyNo! Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 They're probably considered "armor-piercing" as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Tompkins Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 1. How does the powder stay in the cartridge when loaded? 2. Written by someone for whom English is a second (or third) language, physics 4th or 5th language. 3. ROFLMAO!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 2. Written by someone for whom English is a second (or third) language, physics 4th or 5th language. Exactly. I started reading and immediately came to the conclusion this is not real at all. Terrible grammar and usage, etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Texas Granny Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 From the same website... Do they have anything in 45-70 with rubies and diamonds with matching earrings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Carter Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 I've seen bullets with holes in the sides before, tracer rounds of some kind for anti-aircraft use IIRC. These look interesting because you could have gases trying to burn the sides of your barrel instead of just at the base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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