eric nielsen Posted June 26, 2005 Share Posted June 26, 2005 I've tried 4 different primers - WSR, FSR, FSP, and CCI-SR. For the same powder and bullet, the lowest deviation was ALWAYS with the CCI. However they don't get as high a velocity as Federal, so don't be surprised. Update on the hollow-base 115 fmj bullets: In my gun, they are starting to hit the last baffle of my comp, where the 124 JHP Zero does not. So, even though they are super-accurate and work the comp well, you may want to be careful because bullets & baffles don't mix well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoNsTeR Posted June 26, 2005 Share Posted June 26, 2005 Holy crap Alan you made major with 7625?!?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Meek Posted June 26, 2005 Author Share Posted June 26, 2005 Noah, Yes I did..... Slightly Compressed load 4.5" barrel No ports Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harmon Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 with a 5.5 inch open gun with two 3/16 holes, a shooting buddy makes major with 7625 easy. 6.9 will get him 166.7 7.0 gets 170ish 7.2 gets 179 MG JHP (124 grains)at 1.17, WSR primer mixed range brass. it was consistent, accurate and clean, but i felt it had an excessive amount of recoil compared to his SP2 loads. i think the best shooting 9 load was with HS6 however, if you like the way your super feels with 7625, you will probably like it in the 9 too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spd522 Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 Naturally with Area 3 a few days away, my original load of 7.3 Longshot with the Star 124 fmj starts giving erratic readings. Same load I had been using and didn't change a thing but somehow it lost velocity. I tried changing the OAL and powder charge but couldn't get back the original velocities. I can't figure it out. It has been hot and humid here the past few days but I would hope that isn't the reason for a 30-40 fps drop in velocity. Because it's gonna be more of the same in Lenexa this weekend. I had a can of HS6 so I tried it. No problem making major at all in my gun. It is a bit dirtier than Longshot but it runs fine. So right now I am at 7.8 HS-6 loaded to OAL of 1.175. Star 124 fmj bullets, mixed brass, WSR primers. Ave velocity is 1378 which is where I need to be. It seems to be a bit snappier than the Longshot but the dot still stays in the lens and tracks up and down with very little side to side. I will check them for accuracy tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoNsTeR Posted June 30, 2005 Share Posted June 30, 2005 Who has a good price on the encapsulated-base Hornady bullets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Meek Posted July 1, 2005 Author Share Posted July 1, 2005 MoNsTeR, Midway shows 2900 for 159.99 Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harmon Posted July 2, 2005 Share Posted July 2, 2005 www.tntreloading.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtypool40 Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 Just got back from chrono-ing my 3n37 loads. BOLNATS this weekend. 1.165" oal w/ zero 125 gr. jhp 7.7 grains 3n37 (averaged over ten drops to be sure) average velocity 1400 fps. It was making like a 175pf!!! Do I just have a fast barrel? Or am I closer to a kaboom than everyone else that's using this load? Hell IPSC open pf is only 160, I'm going out tomorrow and try some loaded at 7.5gr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.40AET Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 DP- I had my 3N37 load chrono'd at Summer Blast and A8. Both came out 169Pf. I was happy with the consistancy of the loads at the two matches. I'll probably drop back to 7.7g and test some more. I averaged 10 powder throws and checked one charge every time I added primers. 7.8g 3N37 124g MG CMJ Fed SR primers PMC Brass 1.175" Oal Have you tried going a little longer yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtypool40 Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 nothing like waiting to the last minute, I am leaving for the BOLNATS tomorrow, but I loaded about 15 at 7.4 and will chrono them today at lunch. As an aside I shot yesterday evening, heading into dark. It's winter here so it's DARK by 1830. Anyway, the fireballs coming out of the top got brighter and brighter. Wooof. 9mm H.E. for sure. The good news is that the thin air in La Paz actually lets things run faster, so if I make about 162 here, I'l be 165 there no prob. Keep your fingers crossed, I don't know who they have lurking up there and I want the third leg of my "Bolivian Grand Slam". OK, so I made that up to sound important, but Istill want to win. I'll report back on the chrono this afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spd522 Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 From the Area 3 Chrono: Para 5" STI TRUbore S2 9 Major 7.8 HS6 Mixed brass 124 gr Star FMJ 1.175 OAL Velocity 1365 1369 1358 1364 AVE FPS 170.5 PF ------------------ I also found out that the problems I was having with the velocities of the Longshot loads mentioned previously were due to ambient light messing with the chrono readings. Once I corrected the variances in light on the skyscreens, the readings straightened out and went back to normal. Whew!!! So my earlier load of 7.4 Longshot @ 1.170 with the 124 Star are fine after all and run about 171 PF. I shot some of the Longshot and HS6 loads side by side and really can't tell a difference other than the HS6 might be a tad smokier. No difference in POI or accuracy. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtypool40 Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 reporting back from the lunch chrono: 7.7 load still made 176pf, average of 1408fps, and a SD of only 8. That's good, isn't it? Where's Blackbird? Anyway the 7.4 load makes 169pf, so I rushed home and loaded some At 7.1 and we'll see after work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spd522 Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 reporting back from the lunch chrono:7.7 load still made 176pf, average of 1408fps, and a SD of only 8. That's good, isn't it? Where's Blackbird? Anyway the 7.4 load makes 169pf, so I rushed home and loaded some At 7.1 and we'll see after work. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It's always a good feeling to know you can back a charge off even more and still make major than having to keep adding to it. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blkbrd Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 Fast barrel??? Chrono or scale accuracy??? Double check everything, remember the Open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtypool40 Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 I chrono'd the 7.0 loads yesterday and they made 160.2, so I am going to La Paz with some 7.25. I'll report back after lunch with chrono report and Monday with a BOLNATS report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.40AET Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 (edited) I bought a pound of HS-7 last week for testing. It's super dense and loads easily. 10 grains had tons of room left for the bullets. HS-7*****1.175" oal*****Fed 205 primers****MG 115 CMJ****Mixed Brass****** 10.0g Ave Vel=1452 ES=52 SD=17 Ave PF=167.2 10.2g Ave Vel=1475 ES=33 SD=10 Ave PF=169.6 Edited October 29, 2005 by .40AET Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
open17 Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 I bought a pound of HS-7 last week for testing. It's super dense and loads easily. 10 grains had tons of room left for the bullets. Yup. I LIKE HS7. Too bad they discontinued it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diehli Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 Yup. I LIKE HS7. Too bad they discontinued it. And you got this information where? http://www.hodgdon.com/smokeless/shotpist.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AikiDale Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 "HS-7 is identical to Winchester's discontinued 571" except that it is not discontinued.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 And HS6 is just like Winchester's 540 which is discontinued over here, but evidentally not in Europe. HS6 and HS7 are indeed still available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harmon Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 I bought a pound of HS-7 last week for testing. It's super dense and loads easily. 10 grains had tons of room left for the bullets.HS-7*****1.175" oal*****Fed 205 primers****MG 115 CMJ****Mixed Brass****** 10.0g Ave Vel=1452 ES=52 SD=17 Ave PF=167.2 10.2g Ave Vel=1475 ES=33 SD=10 Ave PF=169.6 thats smokin! how did them federal primers look as far as pressure? how dirty? whem my 9 gets back from Tripp, im gonna buy a pound of longshot, HS6, and HS7 i have Power Pistol, and IMR 7625 in my current powder cache right now. At the next big match i shoot im gonna get some VV N350 and 3N38, and 3N37 to try..though i dont think i will use them due to cost and its difficult to get in my area. the test ammo im sending to Tripp with the gun is loaded with SP2...its a shame you cant get more of that stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
open17 Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 Yup. I LIKE HS7. Too bad they discontinued it. And you got this information where? http://www.hodgdon.com/smokeless/shotpist.php I called Hodgdon. Heard it was discontinued. Called them and they confirmed that it was indeed discontinued, but they still had a "years supply" on hand. The guy I talked to said it was being replaced by Longshot. This was in June or July of this year. Loved the reaction I got when I told him my load was 9.5 gr HS7 under a 124 gr in 9x19. L----O-----N-----G moment of silence, followed by Ummm-that's a bit over max! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 my 2cents on HS7 .. it worked, but was VERY dirty, and I had some inverse Temp sensitivity issues. HS6 worked better for me, but was kind of dirty too, I guess I'm lucky, I have a stockpile of SP2, so until that runs out I currently use that. (I'm running a Hardy Mongoose, with 2 popple holes in case you are wondering) I wish that True Blue did not have the pressure spike that some have noticed, it gave me the most consistant results of anything I've tried so far. Carl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.40AET Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 (edited) how did them federal primers look as far as pressure? Primers were good. I'd go higher if I needed. I tried True Blue with the 115's and the primers were smashed too hard to go any further and I couldn't make major. It seemed pretty clean. A lot better than the HS-6 or Silhouette. I was considering it for a backup powder in case 3N37 became unavailable again. The HS-7 hit a little harder and was louder than the 3N37, but I think that I could get used to it if I needed to. There doesn't seem to be any further reason to get interested in the powder if they have made the decision to discontinue it. I wonder what he would have said to 10.2???????? Edited October 28, 2005 by .40AET Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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