thebigdogg316 Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 i was shooting at a uspsa match yesterday. i dq'ed on stage 1. it was AD after 8 rounds during a reload. i realized my mistake and started to fix the problem. my question is what do you folks do to overcome the mental part of the dq? i was really pissed and grabbed my gear and went to the safe zone to de-gun. i hung out at the truck to calm down and went back to the match only to leave shortly after. i am the type of person that thinks failure is not an option and is very hard on myself. any help would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classic_jon Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 (edited) There is a saying that I have seen here and heard at several matches when a DQ is issued. "There are two types of shooters, those that have been DQed once, and those that will be DQed" I would say to look at it as a *learning experience* and go through and re-examine your routines and then do what needs to be done to not be DQed again. Edited September 27, 2010 by Classic_jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corey Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 your best bet is to find out whty you DQ'd( sounds like you already have that part figured out). then during dryfire practice with slow deliberate motions, you need to find an alternate spot for the trigger finger when reloading or moving. make slow repititions and burn the new finger placement into your subconscious. On your next match, dont worry about speed or anything, just worry about the safety issues. once you fall off the horse, you gotta get back on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebigdogg316 Posted September 27, 2010 Author Share Posted September 27, 2010 thanks. i was dryfiring last night and determined that until my extended mag button shows up, i will be keeping the trigger finger away from the gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztecdriver Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 You've already started the fix for mental mistakes - admitting you did it - knowing that you screwed up and knowing there is a way to fix it. It's rough being fallable. We all are and when we realize it we're in a better place because now we look to stop it. Kudos to you for posting it, taking steps to rectify it and vowing to never let it happen again. The sting of it happening will wear off as you move forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XD Niner Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 (edited) You must always keep your trigger finger out of the guard when reloading, moving or clearing a jamb. Even if no AD occurs, it is still an offense that will get you DQ'd. As Classic-jon said, there are two types of shooters. Hopefully, it will never happen to you again but that is not likely. If it does, stay for the entire match after you put your gear away and get your emotions under control. Paste targets for your squad or be the designated scorer or RO. You can always learn something and it is considered a classy behavior by most of us competitors. Edited September 27, 2010 by XD Niner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 You must always keep your trigger finger out of the guard when reloading, moving or clearing a jamb. Even if no AD occurs, it is still an offense that will get you DQ'd. As Classic-jon said, there are two types of shooters. Hopefully, it will never happen to you again but that is not likely. If it does, stay for the entire match after you put your gear away and get your emotions under control. Paste targets for your squad or be the designated scorer or RO. You can always learn something and it is considered a classy behavior by most of us competitors. +10 Stay after you put up your gear and help out. I personally think that too many of us are taking this all to seriously (the game that is, not the safety aspect of it). It shows good sportsmanship. Remember, it's a game, a sport, and as such, mistakes can happen...Learn from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 If you ain't wreckin', you ain't racin'" Jerry Miculek to me, after my Dairy Queen at the 2007 Nationals. It sucked huge and still hurts but I'm a MUCH better competitor today because of it. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEV Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Yes .....i agree with GrumpyOne.....When I "Dairy Queen" I put my stuff away, look up which rule I broke, Memorize it and help out as much as I can. I figure helping with all the not-so-fun stuff, are my Pennants for screwing up. It forces me to remember and improve myself. And it helps out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebigdogg316 Posted September 28, 2010 Author Share Posted September 28, 2010 you guys are awesome! i always take the finger out of trigger guard when not shooting. i must of had a mental issue. i have dry firing every night since the "dairy queen" on sunday. thanks for everything everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joecichlid Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 As others have said, live and learn from what happened. Take it as a chance to improve. Welcome to the club for those who have. Joe W. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Field Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 my question is what do you folks do to overcome the mental part of the dq? i was really pissed and grabbed my gear and went to the safe zone to de-gun. i hung out at the truck to calm down and went back to the match only to leave shortly after. i am the type of person that thinks failure is not an option and is very hard on myself. any help would be great. you just gotta take note of what you did and how it happened, hang around and help reset stages, relax, let it roll, and just come back to shoot at the next match with a positive/slightly cautious mindset. staying at home wont help you get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AR Gunner Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 Hate to hear it. Get back in the game - time will lessen the sting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebigdogg316 Posted September 29, 2010 Author Share Posted September 29, 2010 yeah. i am over it. i was over it on monday and started to fix the problem on monday. i put a extended mag button on the pistol today and it works well. range time is in the future to train with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulture Posted October 1, 2010 Share Posted October 1, 2010 (edited) I was at the chipacracker yesterday and he was rubbing on my back with his thumb trying to find whatever he was looking for. When he found it he kind of stacked his hands and went crack...and my ass went pffft. Thought to myself if i was at the range that would of been a DQ. (accidental discharge ) I didn't mean to fart on the chipacracker, it just kind of happened. You just have to say to yourself sometimes things happen and you try not to do them again. Everybody had a good laugh and he said you arn't the first. So let it go and move on. I'd say shit happens, but it was a dry fart. Edited October 1, 2010 by Vulture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maksim Posted October 1, 2010 Share Posted October 1, 2010 I was at the chipacracker yesterday and he was rubbing on my back with his thumb trying to find whatever he was looking for. When he found it he kind of stacked his hands and went crack...and my ass went pffft. Thought to myself if i was at the range that would of been a DQ. (accidental discharge ) I didn't mean to fart on the chipacracker, it just kind of happened. You just have to say to yourself sometimes things happen and you try not to do them again. Everybody had a good laugh and he said you arn't the first. So let it go and move on. I'd say shit happens, but it was a dry fart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joecichlid Posted October 1, 2010 Share Posted October 1, 2010 I was at the chipacracker yesterday and he was rubbing on my back with his thumb trying to find whatever he was looking for. When he found it he kind of stacked his hands and went crack...and my ass went pffft. Thought to myself if i was at the range that would of been a DQ. (accidental discharge ) I didn't mean to fart on the chipacracker, it just kind of happened. You just have to say to yourself sometimes things happen and you try not to do them again. Everybody had a good laugh and he said you arn't the first. So let it go and move on. I'd say shit happens, but it was a dry fart. My question is, would that be a DQ for ND/AD or unsportsman like conduct? Joe W. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebigdogg316 Posted October 2, 2010 Author Share Posted October 2, 2010 nice vulture! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racine Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 I hear what your saying here but a DQ is still a major burden I have to deal with for a long time. In about 14 years of USPSA, I've had 3 and each time it happens I'm burdened with guilt and remorse. The first time was as a D shooter too nervous at the 1st stage of a major match after a year layoff and having an AD just after the buzzer. I don't remember the 2nd one but the 3rd one happened this last Sunday. This time I was relaxed and focused on shooting but the AD happened and I stopped, USCH. I spent a good deal of time repenting and regretting to the point of loosing sleep. I had stuck around to help RO, score and chat with some old friends but I could not hide the shame of this major AD over a berm. I might just have to take a break from this to come to terms-maybe even quit. Somehow endangering my fellow shooters or innocents is just too much of a burden I'm not sure I can live with. If you ain't wreckin', you ain't racin'" Jerry Miculek to me, after my Dairy Queen at the 2007 Nationals. It sucked huge and still hurts but I'm a MUCH better competitor today because of it. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigphiltheshootist Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 I bet the gun superheroes of the world, Enos included, could write a whole book on Dq's they have made. Congrats, you're human. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunshrink Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 (edited) I look at that DQ thing and tell people go ahead and feel bad, mad and sad for about five minutes then get it together and go back to your squad and help. There was a guy on my squad at Area Three this year that had driven 400+ miles and DQ'd on I think it was target seven of the first stage of the first day. I know he was crushed but he stuck around, helped in any way he could and above all showed class and integrity all the way. That is the mark of a champion. There were a lot of good shooters at this event, but this man impressed me the most of any. Edited September 20, 2011 by gunshrink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poppa Bear Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 A big part of the DQ is how it happened. Was it because you screwed up mentally, or did the conditions screw you up? I have seen both. Shooter flat out broke the 180 going for a target he ran past. Shooter broke the 180 because they did not pull the gun in quick enough and caught it on a prop as they ran by. I also saw a shooter slip, flip, roll and slide and still keep the muzzle down range the entire time. I know many people that would have either dropped the gun or had it sweeping 360 degrees as they tumbled. He didn't DQ but I know he was kicking himself for running quicker than conditions allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 Watch yourself run through the Stages of Grief. It's entertaining. What you do then is where character comes into play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mokken Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 Same thing I tell my kids when they fall down, get back up. It does you no good to beat yourself up, just learn from it and move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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