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Anybody have thoughts on preferences of Twist in Barrels? Who other than Clark and Scheumann make Right Hand Twist Barrels? Anybody know what Nolin's Barrels are? I have a Clark Barrel in my .45 acp 1911 with a RH Twist and a Bar-Sto Barrel in .400 Corbon in another 1911 with a LH Twist, seems I recall specialy ordering it that way too. To me, at least, it takes 2 completely differnt grips for each. The RH Twist requires more LH tension, while the LH Twist demands virtually no tension. Switching back and forth usually leaves the Corbon 1911's sights tracking left. I have a borrowed Kart 2011 in .40 S&W and a Les Baer .38 Super both with a LH Twists. Dave

I noticed the same thing with a 625 Revolver. After shooting a 30 round field course in 85 degree weather, the barrel would burn your hand. It also left a hard "caked" deposti on the frame. I've since switched to Clays in my 625 and while it gets hot, it doesn't seem to sizzle like the Titegroup did. I noticed my 1911 .45 acp would get pretty hot after a long practice session also. But the deposits don't seem as big of a problem. Don't have a .40 so can't say anything on it.

Benny, Will the same Ejector work for a .38 Super and a .40 S&W? Seems I saw it listed that way in Brownells, for at least one manufacturer. Dave

From the look of the picture the Bullet "Skipped" on the target. It has lighter indentions at both ends and looks to have never fully penetrated. I'd say the competitor is lucky he didn't get "DQ'd"! Looks like a full 90 degree angle to me (subject to where the target was placed to the berm). Course I don't see hardly any berm in the picture either.

I've tried both Precision and Master Blaster Bullets in .45 acp with everything from 540, Titegroup, Clays, Universal Clays, Ramshot Zip and Bullseye. Not had good luck at all. The Precision Bullets work great in a 1911. The Precision Bullets in my PC625 leave a slight but, tough coating (the Moly I would surmise) in the barrel. The Master Blaster Bullets, got them in May, leave a lot of lead/tough coating in the barrel of my 1911. The Master Blaster Bullets will have the bore of my PC625 looking like a shotgun bore in less than 50 rounds. Even with Ramshot Zip, Zip actually left flakes of powder also. I even broke down and did the "Taylor Throating" reamer (Brownells or Clymers have them) and it made no difference. Don't know if I just got a bad batch, or what. Tried Raniers and Berry Plated bullets, they work fine but would get an unexplained flyer every 2 or 3 cylinders. Seemed to happen only when I was actually slowing down and aiming too? Taylor Throating helped. Using Montana Gold now and they seem the best. Tried WW FMJ and they did ok. With Titegroup you will get a hard residue on the frame, it takes a bit to scrub it off, too. Clays seems to work best, it's clean and any residue is easy to wipe off. Start at 4.0 grains of Clays and work up until you hit 170+ (740 f/s) with a 230fmj.

At the 2004 Area 3, I asked Jerry why he wasn't shooting a PC625. He said he liked the weight of a regular 625. Then stated he was trying to get S&W to make a 6" 625.

Can't committ to anything right now. It may be August before I can get things settled down. Would like to. If for no other reason than to help out Chris Davies, he used to be a CCPS member. If I do I'll take the BRT. Dave

Good Luck at the Nationals Mr. Carmoney, The AREA 3 REVOLVER CHAMPION. Kind of thought the Prize Table at the Area 3 should have awarded you a Firearm, rather than Raffle off the extras. Did you get lucky at the drawing? I couldn't wait around for it. I now take off any Bad MoJo I may have set upon you at the Sunflower Classic, As if it did me any good, you kicked my butt at both mathces, then again it may have been GOOD MoJo? Can the two get mixed up? Hose 'em down at the Nationals!! Good luck to you and Sam. Dave

Use a Weigand rear sight instead of the original. You will notice the difference. Weigand will even do the installation for a fee. Dave

Another slight possibility no one has mentioned is your ammo. If you are using real old brass, lead bullets with shavings at the case mouth or if your crimp isn't debelling the case then the increased mainspring weight may be "pushing" your slide closed whereas the light spring isn't consistently. You can try Federal Primers, they ignite easier than others. Is your lockup rock solid, try a heavier Recoil Spring and your light Main Spring. If that makes a difference, then your lockup may be catching at some point. If it does try a slightly smaller diameter slide stop. Keep working until you narrow it down. Or it could be you "think" it may help and your subconcious will then make it happen. Read Brians book about that, how you can change something and just the extra concentration from it can give a short term improvement. But, it's all between our ears.

Another more likely cause for that kind of velocity is where the sun is in relation to the skyscreens. Sometimes they will pick up a reflection just after passing over the first screen. The most favorable conditions for chrono'ing is cloudy days. I've even had better luck on a light rain/mist type day than a bright sunny day. Try repositioning the screens, or put a piece of cardboard up so that it casts a shadow over the screens. DON"T try to get CLOSER to the screens to get a better reading! Myself and many others have shot a few screens doing just that.

Your crimp sounds right. I have ran into this a few times. Some set back is normal when your round hits the feedramp, which it usually does. Make sure you are using a good quality Sizing Die, Dillons works good. If your sizing die is oversize it will not provide the friction needed and you can have extensive setback. Does this happen on the first round or all rounds? On a Slide Lock loading? If you're worried you can try the following: Measure 4 rounds (record the exact measurements) then load all 4 into a magazine. Use a marker to write 1-4 on the case head and match those numbers with your measurements. Then chamber your first round by grasping the slide and pulling it all the way back and releasing it. Then rack the next one into the chamber. Fire the 2nd round and allow the 3rd round to be cycled into the gun. Remove the Magazine, eject the 3rd round and pull the 4th round from the Magazine (without it having been cycled). Now measure rounds 1, 3 and 4. #1 will probably be the shortest (.005 isn't bad at all). #3 may be a little short, but probably not by much. #4 should be the same as the original measurement. If this is what happens, don't sweat it. If #1 is shorter than .010, check your magazines for weak springs, bad followers, dirty, etc... If #2 is as short as #1 you may have a worn Mag Release, incorrectly installed barrel, or a bad magazine. I don't know what the limits are, but a little set back seems normal. Your crimp sounds ok, unless at any point you can rotate the bullet in the case, then you may need to check your measuring tools. Too much crimp can be worse than not enough. Note, that when you load on a progressive, overall length will vary. I.E. there is usually a .005 difference in length if there is no case being sized, or if the case is new and not providing friction. If the case in the sizing die is bulged, or real hard to work, you can get .005 longer overall length. I always record my overall length off of the 3rd or 4th case ejected from my Dillon. Setting up the first one I usually try to make them about .005 shorter than I want. Now if you still have concerns, I'm sure someone can come up with some more ideas. Then again, if it works, is accurate and nothing else is acting up Shoot It Now and worry later.

As you shoot .45acp brass it will shorten. New is usually .898, 1x goes .892, X+ .885 (sometimes less). The shorter it gets the further from the taper crimp. The taper crimp usually works best at .470 or less, can start having problems under .465. Try setting your die to give you .470 on the old brass, then run a new case through and it will probably be about .468. Both should then work fine. Lead is more forgiving as long as you bell the case mouth enough (which it doesn't sound like). Try belling the case mouth on the older brass just enough to not shave lead, then run a new case through and it shouldn't bell so much that it won't fit into the next station. Jacketed bullets can be crimped too much and they will get loose in the case. Again .468-.470 seems to be best.

Why not just change L10 to L8? Then run what you brung. A Holster Rule change wouldn't be out of the question, but don't know if it actually makes that big of a difference. You can get fairly cheap Blade Tech Holsters adjustable for rake and the existing Rule allows the 8 shot Revo guys to keep their FMC on the front. Leaving Open, Limited, Production and Revolver alone and just changing L10 to L8 may be the best of all. Dave

Here's one for you: At the Sunflower Classic I ran a 50 yard+ field/track meet course. 1 Door Activated Clamshell and 17 other open targets with the closest at 5 yards, furthest 10 yards. Pretty much a runnin' hose fest, but you'd be surprised at the number of competitors who Mike'd a 10 yard target after several 5 yarders. Anyway, I had a Son, then the father shoot Open Class one right after the other. The Son was young and FASSST, hosed through in 20.76 seconds and left me winded (but he never got away from me). The Father was quick and SMOOOTH, he never really stopped and I kept up well the time, you guessed it 20.76. BTW Son edged Dad by a couple of points. Kind of cool.

No Pillory, chain him to a large heavy prop and make him ro a stand and shoot course all day. With his BIG STICK just out of reach, and of course being used as part of the course. DQ him on his last course so he gets to unload that honking big stick. Oh, also like Jake's idea. Maybe make that the start signal to the course?

If you drew when the RO was talking of the LAMR command to someone else, and NOBODY was downrange. Then if I was on the Arbitration Committee, I would rule in your favor. If however you did it and someone was downrange, it's your ultimate responsibility to not do it. And you probably wouldn't win an Arbitration. I have a tendency to run a quick range. But, I am paranoid of someone being downrange, and act accordingly. When safety is the issue, there is never any rush. As a competitor, I always look downrange and check for others. Unfortunately there are times when you can't see everything, but you must try. Dave

Sounds like this competitor needs a "Safety Lesson" that only a DQ can provide. The RO did a disservice to everyone on this. Being a Good Guy isn't the same as being "Easy". We all hate to DQ someone, but when a competitor pulls his firearm without the RO's express command it is a sign of more serious problems to come. With someone down range it is impermissable. No Questions. You can't be "forgiving" on this. I've had RO's give the LAMR command with people downrange, but since I try to see what is going on, I pointed it out to them and refused the command. If the RO had given the command, and the competitor followed it, shame on them both (but it does happen). But to assume the command is coming, ignore the activity downrange and draw your firearm without RO approval. Well that competitor isn't aware (has nothing to do with experience) of what's going on and most likely has a "Me" complex that will only get worse. What would I have done, I would have yelled at the RO/Shooter that I'm still down range and then pull the RO aside at that time and gently questioned his action, with a recommendation of the proper action. If he didn't, then I would mention it to the RM and Club President (or Officer available). No need to get in a screaming match, but sometimes an easy RO only needs a little backing to do the right thing. It is easy to get wrapped up in this being a "Game" and forget that it is a potential "DEADLY" Game! A firearm pointed at me will always get a response of some kind. You don't have to be a Range Nazi, but everyone on the range depends on the RO for their safety. Dave

Maybe even include it in the Point Series. I first thought that it would add a layer of BS. But, after really thinking of it, and seeing the difficulty in prize aquisition, it may add a reason (other than FUN) to drive to and shoot some Trophy only, low fee matches. Hey Bill let's keep after CCPS, maybe they'll give in next year. Either way, it was a grueling 2 days and lots of fun. Just wish I could have shot WITH all the other Revo's. Really upset with myself for not getting a group Picture of us Hardcore IPSC Revo shooters, though! Congrats Mike, you shot a good match. Of course I should have penalized you on "Dirty Harry" (the one I ran and ran and ran,..."Wheeeez") for all the FMC's that flew by me on your run. Course most of them flew in front of you, funny how they can outrun you when the fly off your belt. I was mightily impressed when you didn't let it faze you. It looked like shrapnel flying by (you must have had 4 or 5 of them come out). Luckily you had just enough to finish. I had one guy who lost his "Big Stick" and couldn't engage the last targets completely. And half a dozen others who also lost their mags. And Everyone was Panting at the end of that course! I may donate a couple of the Caddies to the Area 3 also. Looking forward to the Area 3, hope Sam doesn't run and shoot as fast as you shoot, or we'll both be in trouble. Dave

P.S. I may be a sick, twisted individual but I would definitely shoot my 625. Probably with Major loads. But then that's just me. Dave

Use Steel Challenge type Steel (no resetting), give the RO a clicker and count the misses (or be sadistic and count the hits). Only 2 Gun Bearers per shooter, to pick up clips or mags and reload mags if needed (coaching would add a click to the misses, he! he!). Use a pouch of some kind for the extra ammo, and sling it around your neck. No Major/Minor and make it a Jungle Run. Sounds warped, but the "!WOW!" factor would make it a hit. Dave

CCPS doesn't post the stages anywhere, but we will be setting them up on Friday. See my post of last week, I gave a description of what they plan, don't know if it will stand up to reality. The single hardest course, for a Revo, will be the Standard type which is a 24 second time limit at 4 Classic Targets at 15 yards, NO Mandatory Reloads. Makes the reload we must do, critical. The rest have a few activated targets. If past history is any indication the targets will be close with few really hard shots. Dave

Last I heard they weren't full yet. But, the Entry stops applications after May 1. Fill it out, send it in and hopefully you won't have a problem. Are you in this area? Want to come down and help set up on Friday. Probably would get you a spot if you do, ha! ha! ha! Dave

Myself (Dave Williams), Scott Ross and Mike Widebrook will all be shooting Revolver. The organizers promised me they will recognize Revolver with an award. And I am donating a Moon Caddie as a prize in Revolver. They are a fully enclosed wood box that holds 30 Full Moon Clips (180 rounds), check the attachment. They don't post the Courses, but from what I've heard there is only 1 short (12 rd) course that is screwed up for a Revolver. I will be there on Friday setting up and shooting, so maybe I can have some input. Here is the breakdown: (all subject to change though) 36 rd field course, close/open hoser type 36 rd field course, memory course (easier on us memory challenged ones, though) 17 rd field course, some action targets 17 rd field course, all steel 12 rd speed course, Revolver unfriendly at this time 22 rd field course, several action targets 48 rd fixed time course, freestyle (Revo will be good to get 24 rounds in) Now since the Theme is "Clint Eastwood Movies", do I shoot my 5" PC625 with an Apex 5 1/2# Action Job, or the 4" M29 with 6 1/2# Clark Action Job? Both use Full Moon Clips. I love the way the .44 feels, but the .45 shoots/handles so well. Actually the M29 is 1 ounce heavier than the 625. Decisions, Decisions! If only I had a 6 1/2" M29! Whichever, I'M READY TO "MAKE MY DAY!" Side note: Millcreek is hosting the Area 3, and they are having their monthly match this Saturday morning(need to be there by 9am). Some of you Ia guys want to come down and get a feel for the Range? I should be there shooting Revo.

Eliminate Limited 10 (fyi I've shot L10 exclusively for the past several years though I've graduated, hmm gravitated, to Revolver now). AND Change Production to: Allow 1911's and other Single Action firearms. Minimum Trigger Pull 4# (helps equalize popular real world self defense recommended Single Action trigger pull and slicked up Double Action and Safe Action pulls). 8 round limit in pistol. not magazine if claiming Major (8 round Revo ok, factory 1911 7 round w/1 in chamber ok, btw I've always hated the way a 1911 looks with a 10 round stick, though I used them religiously). 10 round limit if claiming Minor. Allow .357 Mag/.38 Super as Major. Iron Sights Limit Modifications as per Production. Use Production Holster rules with no restriction on mag/speedloader/clip pouch placement. Is this workable? It would shorten the list of divisions, keep production "in the spirit?" Add more work to the RO's (checking trigger pulls, counting rounds, etc...), make less work for Stats (fewer Divisions). Or would it be better to leave it all alone? Open - Hair on Fire with Optics Limited - Balls to the Walls with Iron Sights Production - What a factory will produce Revolver - The poor Stepchild with no place to go (but it's still fun) Sometimes it's good to throw Fertilizer in the pasture and see what grows. Ohhh! I'm getting a headache, gotta go home and get a whiff of gunsmoke to clear the head. Dave