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Actually I could care less if it's Revo friendly. What I do wish is there were enough good Revo shooters competing to give us an actual Revo score to qualify against. Just taking a % of Limited isn't good, at least for a course like this. I'm not sure JM is the one to do it either, but then Spook and some of the others have been creeping up on him. Heck with creeping, they stuck it to him on several stages at the WS. Made him work for the win, which is good for all. Guess it doesn't matter, we usually end up competing heads up anyway. Like the "Good 'Ole Days"! Ha!Ha!

Yes, on a course like this I like to take the first shot at the open target and definitely reload on an open target, as it helps for a bit faster reload. Best of 3 runs (in 1 year at 2 clubs!) was 14.85 with a 4.444 HF 61.5%. The fastest run was 13.88 with a 4.398 HF 60%. This was a real tough one for a Revo, and not very friendly. Good Luck, Dave

CCPS in Topeka, Ks. is hosting the Kansas Sectional on May 19-20, 2006. It is a 1 day format with RO's and (I think) limited others shooting on Friday. This is part of the Sunflower Classic CCPS has run for the last 5 years or so. Last year we had 5 Revo shooters show up with Mike Carmoney taking HOA. They will again recognize Revo if we have enough competitors (5 or more). So, who's going to shcedule this. The courses are usually fairly close up hoser types, with a few activated moving targets in the mix. If you like Run'n'Gunnin' with a Revo this is your kind of match (if past years are any indication). The range is only an hour west of KC, right off I-70. And KC is hosting the Area 3 less than a month later (June 16th). This would be good practice for this years Area Champs, get a lay of the land and weather. I'm planning on shooting Revo. Who else? Dave

MCPSL just announced they are going to have a Larry Bullock Memorial Match with proceeds going to a Scholarship Fund for Larry's children. It is scheduled for April 2 at Mill Creek in DeSoto, Kansas. Larry gave so much to our sport, I feel it only fitting to attend and give back what little I can. Any other Revo Shooters going to show up? It's not going to count for Classifiers or Club Points, so how about some crossovers? Dave

Five Rings is deeper than it seems at first read, and quite good. Sauls latest Thinking Practical Shooting is great. Probably should read some of the Martial Arts Books, you know using your "enemies" momentum against them thing. Of course in shooting you are your own enemy.

D4 I used to have the same feelings. Then in the late '80's I had a bad malfunction on a real short, quick stage. As I cleared the jam and proceeded to finish the stage I had an epiphany. I felt like I was outside of my body watching myself clear the jam and finish the stage. Everything went flawless, and this little voice was inside of my head talking about how you just focus. Yet, it took nothing away from my concentration. I cleaned the rest of the targets in a good time. The jam cost, but I lost nothing else after the jam. I realized it was a byproduct of training, leading to confidence and the knowledge going into the match that I had done all I could to get ready. From that point on, I practiced hard until a week before a big match. Then relaxed, figuring that if I wasn't ready by then it wouldn't help to stress. While I'm not a contender for the big match win, I got to the point of enjoying the stress of the match. Keep at it, concentrate on the fundamentals and enjoy the ride. Don't swell up when you do well and don't beat yourself up when you foul up.

The course I saw I am sure was the Far to Near? with 50 yard shots. He had an obvious fast/steady pull then would hesitate, noticably, and squeeze the shot off. He did all six shots of the string that way. It was interesting in that his pull was the same, release and next shot pull, as normal then he would freeze at that last moment. I've actually had better groups if I don't do that. Usually it's a sign I'm not confident in my trigger work. Or I've been working on new loads and "worrying" about groups. Not that JM would EVER worry about his trigger work.

Randy puts those pencil tipped stops in, at least mine. Works ok, doesn't ding the frame. Clark will put a solid one in, will scar the frame but works good. I always worried the internal ones would stress the Rebound Pin at speed. I like them so it removes the possibility of SA (forces me to concentrate on DA). Plus, I always felt that without the Trigger Stop the Recoil tended to cause lateral shot dispersion when shooting odd positions, weak hand or if you had a bad grip. Staging the trigger in IPSC/Speed Shooting is not considered a good thing. But, I noticed in one of the Shooting Shows of JM at the IRC that he did "STAGE" the trigger, at least on one stage. Staging the trigger seems to give me a different POI, or maybe I'm just jerking when I try to stage. But, in the end it's what works for you. It's not needed unless you think so.

Rob, Any chance you'll compete in USPSA Revolver Division this year? Maybe if you and JM got together and worked on S&W they'd bring out a Blue Steel 25 again. One suitable for competition, maybe even with most of the "Few" bells and whistles available. Dave

Wheew RPM8shot stick that trigger finger in a cup a water and watch it steam!! .14 splits! I jump up and down, run to the roof top and crow (so the better half says) everytime I get under .20. I've always had more trouble short stroking with heavier pulls. But, if I push myself I can short stroke anything, even a 1911. Being a mechanic who always believed in getting a Bigger Hammer, well the bigger the hammer the harder the grip. The harder the grip the less finesse with anything, let alone a trigger finger. I do love my Randy Lee 4# Action Job, it's so smooth and buttery. Wonder how it'd go with grits?

Might have better luck getting S&W, or a major US distributor to kick in some travel fare.

MBane in another thread said he's heard more interest in Revo's than anything lately. Robbie picks up a Revo. Look at all of the interest and articles in Handgunner on Revo's. Maybe there is going to be a pick up in interest. If there is it may be a difficult race to get a Revo Team slot to the next WS. Looks like best of place at nationals in 06-07, winner of national divisions in 08 and points from 2 of 3 approved matches in 07. But only in that Division, maybe some big names will move to Revo to soldify a spot? Could generate participation. My guess is the teams will be officially sponsored as per Division participation, probably rightfully so. Most who contribute, directly and indirectly, don't do so with a WS team in mind. Looks like a pretty solid deal, with lots of competition and possibilities. Who knows maybe a father/son combo on the 08WS team?

Mike, if your having trouble with spitting try a Clymer Taylor Throat Reamer, Brownells has them. They will increase your velocity (20-30 f/s in the .45) and tighten up the groups (reduces the flyers). I don't notice much difference between Lead, Plated or Jacketed recoil in the Revo. Actually like the impulse of Jacketed the best right now, seems to track better. The cost of Midway Raniers (on sale now at 60/m) + shipping is right at $8/m less than Montana Gold's (78 vs 86-88). The Golds do seem a bit more accurate and have a rounder nose, the Raniers are kind of pointed while Berrys are also round. I noticed no difference between Ranier and Berry (other than price). If everything is timed up good either bullet will work great. If your on the edge the softer Raniers will throw an occasional flyer. I use the same powder charge with either and I get more difference due to weather than the bullets. Dave

Welcome Foosball, If you're shooting Wood Hogues, take your Revo out and shoot 150+ rounds in 1 session. If you have no trouble with your thumb being banged up you will have no trouble with Miculek grips. Most of us just put Skateboard Tape on the sides though. If your thumb joint, or the area next to it, hurts or gets a blister you're better off with Hogue Grips. Just grind off the finger grooves and some of the palm swell. Either work great. The Miculeks allows the Revo to slip around in your hand on Reloads if you use the Switch Hands Technique. Plus they allow you to shift your grip a bit easier if you get a bad draw. The Hogue Rubber Grips are easier on your hand and seem a bit more secure under recoil. But, can catch the brass on the way out or the cartridges on the way in and cause some interesting flips (not that much to worry about though). Or you could be like Spook and use Body Putty on a set of grips and form them to your particular hand. There's a whole thread on that subject. Good Luck Dave

I have a PC625 also, and the original Gold Bead is a .250". And that is what worked with both the original sight and the Weigand Replacement I later installed. If you switch over to a Millet Rear Sight, you will need to be more careful of the heights as there are 3 different Millet Rear Sights for S&W late model Revolvers. You might check with Randy Lee at Apex Tactical, he was coming out with some .110" FO Sights that might be worthwhile. Dave

I'll be shooting a 625 or 29 (w/fmc's). FWIW as long as the course strutcure is such that there aren't 7-8 shots at each position, I don't have a problem competing against 7-8 shot revolvers, especially if they shoot Minor. Comps don't concern me, again at Minor. Optics? Maybe make them start with them turned OFF? HA!HA! Whatever you decide will be great. Just hope you get some turnout. Dave

Fluffers, aren't those the little creatures that keep the powder from laying down in the case. You know, if they don't work your gun "Detonates!" Used to happen all the time to Bullseye shooters, using the same name powder in the same named type of match must tempt the Competitive Gods mightily! But us Fast Shooters in IPSC, being the impatient types, found out who those critters were and put them to work.

After reading all of the discussions on Cylinder Peening, Window Wear, etc...and the methods of refinishing a Revolver. I was wondering what has worked for everyone? Who have you had good luck with? Has anyone tried Robar NP3 on a Revolver? I have a 1911 with the frame NP3'd, the slide Roguarded (nice 2 tone look) and it's holding up pretty good. The Roguard seems to wear the same as Bluing, but the NP3 is great. Dave

If this was a S&W and you have suffeciently worked it over I would get the gun back from the local gunsmith and send it to S&W. The very least they don't know you and you won't run into snide remarks and snickers behind your back. They can also check it out and make sure everything else is good.

Congratulations Hop! Becoming a CRO is one heck of a lot of work. Your local club and USPSA will greatly benefit from your experience. Now remember to nicely share your knowledge with the newbies.

Unless I close my eyes, I have this habit of looking at the sights, I can dry fire faster than live fire even though it feels slower. For pure speed down to .17 it seems that I'm fastest when I stroke the trigger of a DA Rev like I do a SA 1911 (but that leads to an occassional short stroke). If I shoot for points and roll the trigger smoothly, the fastest I can get to reliably with good hits is .22. Below .20 at 10 yards it becomes so much a function of muscle memory, the shot is where it is and it's hard to compensate. I actually think it is detrimental to good match performance to practice it too much. A GM once told me on a fast speed shoot he shoots for points, as everyone (in his world) is shooting at the same speeds and he couldn't afford to lose a D. In November though, just before knocking off for the holidays, I was hitting .24 at 15 yards with solid A's, with both my 1911 and 625. And it felt GOOOD! Now it'd probably be about .40 with hits everywhere! One thing I noticed was no difference in times between a 7# and 4# DA Trigger Pull. The lighter pull seemed a bit more consistent at hyper speed and the hits were always a point or two higher. But the average, hi and lows were the same.

If USPSA is certain they want to go down this road IMHO they should make a few changes. 1) Since this is a USPSA Match, they probably need to up the ante a bit. Maybe by matching the total amount of entered fees. Make the payoff more than just what the competitors put into it. 2) Use it to encourage Section/State Matches. As of now there is no real incentive for Sections to have an organized championship match. 3) While the Nationals should count more than other matches (by a multiplier) being as it is such a hard match to get into (which is good) a competitor should be able to equal a Nationals Point Total with Area/Section Matches as long as there is suffecient competition at those matches. For instance a Nationals Points (x4) or 2 (Extra) Area Points (x2), if unable to attend the Nationals. BTW congratulations Mike, looks as if you won the Revolver and Manny won the Limited. Did you even recoup the $100 entry costs? Maybe that should lead to: 4) lower the costs of entry into the series. 5) USPSA could allocate some Slots to the Nationals for Point Series Winners, maybe some paid entries into Area Matches? I think it's an interesting and worthwhile endeavor by USPSA. The future rewards to the organization as a whole could outweigh the aggravations. Hopefully it won't degrade into a prima donna battle at Area/Secion Matches, making it harder for the RO's to keep everyone working a course instead of trying to outprep the competition. We do need to remember that on the whole this sport is driven by Pride/Fun and the rudder that guides it are the Volunteers who WORK at it. Just some idle thoughts on a windy, great plains day.

Viewed the WS DVD again. It was Stage 23, but the RSA shooter DID NOT break 180. In super slow motion it showed the shooter jerks his pistol back and contacts his cheek, but doesn't break 180 (but looks right on it). In real time it's so fast, I would have DQ'd him as breaking 180, and I would have been wrong. But, better safe than sorry. You could see him jerk his head as the pistol gets to his cheek, would have shocked me!

Don't remember what stage, but I'm sure it was on the 1st DVD and Saul overlaps this guys run with MV (I think). But this Standard shooter was having malfunctions and then has a mag hang up and as he shakes it loose, in Hyper Motion (this guy was FAST) the muzzle breaks 180, right in his own face. It's so bad that the shooter himself flinches back. It was so quick that if the RO was blinking he may NOT have seen it. The RO was behind, so it's hard for him to see at that angle. Kind of makes you wonder about videoing matches. The WS DVD is excellent. Though I would have liked to seen more, don't we always, especially the top Revo guys as that was a pretty good race, for a change.

Welcome John, do you limit yourself to ICORE & Steel? Or are you a USPSA competitor also? Dave