MemphisMechanic

I didn't know the S2 was solid inside the back of the magwell. The stock 3 looks like the Limited Pro does. Lightened. No wonder you S2 owners think the Stock 3 is muzzle heavy. It's longer, has that chunky rail, and is lightened in the back.

Swap your factory strut into the Titan. And polish both of them up nicely.

(Quote feature mucking up. Replying to it below) Ben Stoeger stopped all of us Production guys on Day 1 of his advanced class. "What are you doing? Planning loads first? Stop that. Reloads go last - they take care of themselves." Sounded crazy since everyone has done the opposite in front of me for my entire USPSA journey. But try it. You don't get points for reloads - you get points for efficient target engagement. Figure out what order you want to shoot the targets in, then it's easy to insert your loads where they're needed.

That could be the case, TDA. My 650 works phenomenally with coated bullets in 9mm. I run a Lee sizing die with the hardened aftermarket recapping pin. Dillon Flaring, then powder check in stations 2 & 3. Dillon seating die in 4. Lee Factory Crimp die (FCD) in the final station. After experimenting with various combinations of Lee, Dillon, and Redding? This is my favorite for 124-150gr coated bullets in 9mm.

The trap is that some people read this and get insanely literal. If three of the targets are available to be shot on the move while running down a long thin shooting area between a wall at the front of the bay and a wall at the back... You need to count that as a view or location or whatever you choose to call them, even if they CAN be shot through a port somewhere else. And in such a setup, even if the stage otherwise only has 3 ports/windows/shooting positions/view/locations ... it's now probably legal.

Wilson doesn't make a gun with a barrel shorter than that.

Someone beat Vogel, the USPSA shooter who slides over to IDPA once or twice a year? I don't see that on the scoresheet anywhere.

How do you prove the gun doesn't have 10% lighter springs? Do you pull them and test? Do you allow grip tape? Do you let them change the sights to something competitive? Tweak the magazine catch papering to make it easier to depress?

@rowdyb I have noticed the same thing! If it's once a month, I'd rather pay $35 for 8 genuinely interesting stages at a clean facility where I have lots of competition... Than $15 for a small match with 5 identically uncreative ones, surrounding a rusty mobile home in the middle of nowhere.

I think if you shot an actual match with the gun featuring the longer amount of overtravel, and tightened down to pretty much none, you'd find zero difference in your scores or accuracy or speed. And that you didn't really notice it. Some things only matter on the workbench and in our heads. A lot of trigger obsessions are like that. My Tanfoglio normally features pull weights of 6.75/3.1 because I run a lot of hammer spring and CCI primers. I shot a match with the gun at 5.5/2.5 using Winchester primers a while back. I noticed absolutely no difference in how the gun felt at all.

Minus the sluggish load and movement, it's all right. (which I'll forgive myself for because it was 38 or so out, and raining, and I was just happy to hit a clean load at all with fingers that were stiff and numb.)

Updating the original topic, on switching from M&P to a Tanfoglio. I'd say it took me 3.5 months but I'm slightly ahead of where I was when I first made the switch: I'm finally a slightly better shooter with the Stock 3 than when I put the M&P down. Here's my first (barely) M class run on a classifier with the Tanfoglio:

A Stock II can make weight in CO with some work. A Lim Pro should be pretty easy in comparison.

To tack onto what BRAD said, I left out the first two years I shot with a G34. Made SSP Master with it. I only switched to the M&P because it has full ambi controls and I'm a lefty and I wanted to play with the brand new gun on the block. (My M&P was one of the first few thousand made!) Glock is good. Shoot Glock. Get gooder.

If the practice were equally intense? No. I'd probably be there already. Guns don't make you better. Matches are won with a G34 over a Shadow all the time. A Glock 34 has won Production nationals around half a dozen times. No one has ever won Nationals with a CZ. Remind your buddies of that, when they tell you that your gun is holding you back.

Good question. I shot the M&P up through SSP Master and then over into USPSA B class on a casual journey through practical shooting. I literally shot one gun without exception, from 2008 through 2016. I recently decided that I wanted to get heavy into USPSA and make a push to achieve an M classification by the end of 2017. I bought the Tanfo as part of a fresh start, and to help motivate me to practice. And it's working. But not because the gun was holding me back.

To be honest, I'm not sure exactly what you're trying to figure out. It's very clear in the rule book and was spelled out very plainly by at least three people above. The stage isn't legal if you HAVE to fire more than 8 shots from one position. The stage is still legal if you CAN fire more than 8 shots from one position. The end.

When you get the shiny new CZ it will take you an average of three months of dedicated practice to get back to where you were the day you stopped shooting the Glock. Chnaging platforms does not make one better, and the Glock is a very competitive gun in the hands of a more skilled shooter than you are. It took me four months to shoot the Tanfoglio as well as I shot my M&P (Production A shooter) because I didn't dryfire enough. I switched to it in late November, and finally shot my first M classifier with it at our March 11 match. Stick with Glock and lots of practice if your goal is the quickest path to shooting better.

"Paging @kneelingatlas to the Open gun thread... Atlas, please report to the open gun thread."

And yes, your vision will speed WAY up in the first year of shooting.

I currently have two weak spots in my game. Stand and shoot classifier type situations, and really crushing the reload on long movements. I have target arrays at either end of the hall. Shoot the tight partials (set up similar to a classifier) exit hard and load aggressively. Enter the other bedroom smoothly with the gun mounted and shoot the second array with fast & clean transitions. Does that answer your question?

Not at all. To shoot that stage you MUST fire 8 shots from one position or another. To put it very simply: The stage may be designed so that open shooters can shoot the vast majority of the stage from one position. That's fine. The stage cannot force a production or revolver shooter to perform a flat-footed reload and continue shooting from that location.

Woah. There had to be something that the bulk of those presents were given to the shooters for. What was it? The fault line issue?

A double-layer kydex body on the BOSS hanger is truly the stiffest best thing out there. I'm running one from @Kingman at red hill tactical. I used a blade tech body with the BOSS for a year before that switch and it did work really well, the doubled holster is just even more rigid and even more perfectly formed. Since the price difference is under $20, I'd definitely recommend the incredibly stiff RHT body.