Nedragon Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 What barrels do the top shooters use? (i.e Brand, length, twist) I'm building an AR for 3-Gun. I figure if have the good stuff, I can only blame the shooter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_pinto Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 1-8 twist, 20 inch SS wylde chambered either JP, Lothar-Walther, or Wilson would be my choices, in that order.. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Sierpina Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 Many companies use Wilson Arms blanks. Their match grade blanks are good. Firebird Precision uses Lothar-Walther barrels. White Oak Armament barrels are on Wilson Arms blanks, word is that JP uses them also. That I can't confirm. Krieger and Shilen are both producing barrels for AR's, although, they tend to cater to the Highpower shooters. Compass Lake, also caters more to the Highpower crowd, and they machine for multiple companies (CNC equipment that sits still makes no money). I'm no top shooter, but, the barrels on the AR's in my safe are a Lothar-Walther (Firebird) and several Wilson Arms, 2 from White Oak (SPR) and one that I machined from the blank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uscbigdawg Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 Best barrels I've used: - JP (current 16" middy rifle) - Olympic Arms 1:8 (18" ol' reliable rifle) - DPMS Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busyhawk Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 Since this is the 3 gun forum...my preference is the JP followed by Olympic (very good barrels but don't ask about the lowers), Sabre, DPMS and the list goes on. Remember we are talking 3 gun and not sub minute of angle like a long range (700 +). These are capable of sub minute but I am only paying for minute price:-) My .02 cents... RLTW, Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Sierpina Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 Any of the above barrels should shoot 1/2 moa or less with a decent load with a quality bullet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_pinto Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 Any of the above barrels should shoot 1/2 moa or less with a decent load with a quality bullet. +1 Dan.. Most of it is up to the shooter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cold Posted July 18, 2009 Share Posted July 18, 2009 I have used a LaRue, KAC, JP and Noveske (or currently do). Between the aforementioned they are all great barrels and solid shooters. I am a bit biased but I have found my Noveske barrels to continue to be tack driver accurate. That would be my choice when it is all said and done. I believe Taran uses a Noveske as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caspian guy Posted July 18, 2009 Share Posted July 18, 2009 (edited) My current gammer rifles are 16" noveske mid-length gas 18" sabre mid-length gas 20" dpms turned down rifle length gas system All shoot sub moa with the right ammo. All the below are good. Pick one based on what you want (in terms of twist, profile, and gas system length) and can aford and shoot it till you wear it out. In no paticular order: Noveske Compass lake Lothar walther Jp Sabre Olympic Dpms Wilson Edited July 18, 2009 by caspian guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
00bullitt Posted July 18, 2009 Share Posted July 18, 2009 I like my Noveske barrels. I have been shooting an 18" rifle gas barrel for the last two seasons. Just got my new 17" rifle gas barrel. There are alot of good barrels out there. I've used many mentioned. I've just found the Noveske to produce the best accuracy over a wider variety of loads and be the most durable in longevity. Meaning it takes a beating and does not lose its accuracy. Many of the other barrels I have used lost accuracy in half the rounds my Noveske has seen. And I have seen no degradation in its accuracy yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH45 Posted July 18, 2009 Share Posted July 18, 2009 Eventhough the first two Oly barrels I had would do under 1/2", I would no longer recommend them because I recieved one that was cut with a bad broach and would barely make 2" at 100 yards. Oly admitted that they had a bad run of barrels and said they would take care of me and inspect the new barrel and test fire it for accuracy. I sent the complete upper to them and they replaced the bad barrel with another bad barrel. Then I sent it back and they did it AGAIN! After almost a year of frustration, and 4 different barrels, I Finally got a good one. No more Oly for me!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyRumore Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 One of the reasons the Noveske's are so good, is because he starts with a Pac-Nor blank. The Pac-Nor barreled AR's that I have built would all average in the 3's. That's an average for 5 shots at 100 yards. Many groups are in the 1's and 2's. Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jobob Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 One of the reasons the Noveske's are so good, is because he starts with a Pac-Nor blank. The Pac-Nor barreled AR's that I have built would all average in the 3's. That's an average for 5 shots at 100 yards. Many groups are in the 1's and 2's. Tony 3 inches?! Or .3"? Or 3 cm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M118LR Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 I have always like the Wilson 1 X 8 twist barrels with the Wylde chamber. I have three of them and they are ACCURATE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
00bullitt Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 (edited) One of the reasons the Noveske's are so good, is because he starts with a Pac-Nor blank. The Pac-Nor barreled AR's that I have built would all average in the 3's. That's an average for 5 shots at 100 yards. Many groups are in the 1's and 2's. Tony Yeah.....what do you mean? 3's and 1's and 2's? As for the PacNor blank......very true,but Noveske has a strict set of specs that PacNor does for his barrels and his only. It is not a standard PacNor blank. Edited July 21, 2009 by 00bullitt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sudden Death Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 Go with JP and you will never look back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyRumore Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Shooting in the 3's means .300" - .399" I guess there are not many bench rest shooters on this board. Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Knight Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 I have Wilsons done by White Oak Precision and White Oak Armament. All shoot under 1MOA. Well at least for the next few thousand rounds or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cold Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Shooting in the 3's means .300" - .399"I guess there are not many bench rest shooters on this board. Tony At its the man from Tromix himself! I didnt know you were here too. Yeah, Noveskes(pac-nor) barrels are really an ideal choice for 3 gunners IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken hebert Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 I'm using, and very satisfied, with Firebird's Lothar-Walthar and Wilson, all are 18" and rifle gas length. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemo Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 I saw a 20", 1/9 barrel by FNMH. Anybody shot or has one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Morcillo Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 My iron sight Olympic heavy barrel is a tack driver. Heard good things about their barrels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prreed10 Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 (edited) I ran across this guy: Ballistic Advantage I spoke to him on the phone and ordered an 18in Midlength in 1/8 twist with a government profile to reduce weight. He is also going to index it for a comp. He hasn't started on it yet (waiting on more blanks), but I am thinking about changing it to a Wylde chamber and chrome lined. Edited August 11, 2009 by prreed10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam B Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 You will be hard pressed to beat the performance of a single cut rifled barrel. Most manufacturers use button cut rifled barrels, which is an easier method to produce a rifled barrel but accuracy may or may not be as good as a single point cut barrel. As far as I am concerned single point cut rifling is the way to go if you want a truly accurate barrel. As for manufacturers take a look at Krieger, Rock Creek, and Satern, thoser are some of the ones that come to mind, but as long as you get an AR barrel extension competent gunsmith can make any barrel an AR barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin J Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 I've been using the Lothar-Walther in poly, 1-7. Loves the 77 grain Sierras. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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