Sharyn Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 (edited) I'd rather have Athena respond to my 911 call than 98% of the guys featured on bad boys, bad boys whatcha gonna do?... Cops. edited to add: although I've done some Photoshop enhancements in the past... this one is an untouched original currently published in American Cop magazine. Edited March 3, 2009 by Sharyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 That's wonderful! Thanks! I needed that! Chuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhgtyre Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 That caption is hysterical! -ld Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SA Friday Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 I'm not sure I want the majority of cops I know trying to pull off what Athena can do with a pistol. Hell, I'm not sure I want them trying to even run with their pistol unholstered. Not saying all cops are like that, but the percentage of cops that shoot the amounts of a USPSA shooter is pretty slim. Sad, but true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWLAZS Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 I wonder what would be wrong about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolex Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 SA FRIDAY- thats because they all shoot that IDPA stuff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlamoShooter Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Like anybody is going to read the caption Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ledge Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 I guess I'd like to know what parts of the techniques that she is demonstrating you would not want to duplicate in a LE environment. Hopefully it isn't the muzzle awareness, and her finger being clearly up and off the trigger... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Payne Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 When I am on duty and bad guys pull guns on me, I run just like that. Generally screaming like a girl also. On a more serious note, I love the trigger finger placement. THAT is good training. "I am the only one professional enough in this room to use a Glock 40" comes to mind. That one didn't make us look too good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve J Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 SA FRIDAY- thats because they all shoot that IDPA stuff! Not true. The percentage of LEOs in any of the shooting sports is closer to that of the general population. Being a COP doesn't make you a gun guy or make you prefer one of the shooting sports over the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsb45acp Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 OK, so let me see if I've got this right. By "your own competition" I assume they mean a life and death encounter where some one might be shooting at you. In that case, I can see why skills such as rapid movement to cover or a position where you can return fire, trigger control and accurate shot placement under duress would be of no value whatsoever When I am on duty and bad guys pull guns on me, I run just like that. Generally screaming like a girl also. Quote - Brian Payne Now that's funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharyn Posted March 3, 2009 Author Share Posted March 3, 2009 SA FRIDAY- thats because they all shoot that IDPA stuff! Hate to say, but they bust on IDPA too. And, this isn't an 'Us vs. Them' topic... please don't get it closed with that mindset. Perhaps the most dangerous habit you can ingrain from competitive shooting is quickly shooting at targets as you see them. Judgment and target discrimination have little place in these events. The "no-shoot" targets used in IDPA matches are too primitive to count as real judgment training, in my opinion. ~Ralph Mroz - American Cop March/April 2009 pg. 47 I should scan and post the entire article. It's actually pretty good and supportive of competitive shooting. Just that picture of Athena (with funny caption) in a Cop magazine was totally unexpected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharyn Posted March 3, 2009 Author Share Posted March 3, 2009 (edited) ok, yeah... I need to post the whole article as I see where the conversation is heading... sorry, mods! brb with article Here's the entire article for you to read (you should, it's pretty good!) They actually have it on their website, which is REALLY nice btw. Type in pg 46 on the bottom (article starts on pg 46) or just e-flip through the pages. http://fmgpublications.ipaperus.com/FMGPub...icanCop/ACMA09/ Edited March 3, 2009 by Sharyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Jensen Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Most Law Enforcement trainers have NO idea what competition is about... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwb01 Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Looks like the author of that article missed a golden opportunity to interview Bob V(police officer if you didn't know). I am sure Bob could have elaborated on how competitive shooting/training relates to real world police work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWLAZS Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 (edited) I'd rather have Athena respond to my 911 call than 98% of the guys featured on bad boys, bad boys whatcha gonna do?... Cops. edited to add: although I've done some Photoshop enhancements in the past... this one is an untouched original currently published in American Cop magazine. I guess it would depend on the call for service. I am a leo trainer. I often get told to teach the real life way and not the ipsac way. I have noticed some of our techniques are making their way into the leo training but it is a slow moving trend. Edited March 3, 2009 by AWLAZS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Norman Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Essentially the article is supportive of competitive shooting. Yes, the cation taken totally out of context would lead one to think it was a bash USPSA/IPSC and IDPA article, but reading it proves the opposite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Jensen Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 I'm in law enforcement and a trainer... and very often told our techniques only work for competition. Is a gunfight a competition??? Hmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SA Friday Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Most Law Enforcement trainers have NO idea what competition is about... This, thank god, has been changing over the years. I can list at least five that I know of off the top of my head; Konkapot, Redwood, the instructor for AFOSI, and the instructors (2) for Denver PD. All USPSA shooters and then some. Change can be a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ap38 Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 Mike Seeklander wrote a good article on the same topic. I think it is available on his site or the USSA site. Good reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary1911A1 Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 If there is going to be shooting involved, yes I'd rather have her than 98% of the LE Officers I know come to my aid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Ho Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 I'm in law enforcement and a trainer... and very often told our techniques only work for competition. Is a gunfight a competition??? Hmmm Ya, it is. and second place really sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Boudrie Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 One of our locals returned from Afghanistan, and has been put in for the Purple Heart and Silver Star for his exploits. While standing around at a recent match he told me he felt more pressure waiting to shoot a stage than in a firefight. Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GentlemanJim Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 The only thing I see that could hurt a LEO Her tongue is sticking out just a tiny bit Some LEOs may bite it when they fall down Just so you know, this is just in fun... Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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