Flexmoney Posted September 10, 2003 Share Posted September 10, 2003 - Bringing stuff that just doesn't work. It doesn't matter what part of the combination is faulty...gun, mag, ammo...broken stuff wastes waaay to much time. Bring stuff that works. - Reloads. Less reloads mean more shooting. (Those Open guys have a leg up on the Revolver shooters. Good thing there are Divisions. ) Standing reloads are awful. Extra reloads are awful. - Missing. Which often comes from not calling the shot. At best...a quick split to make up a called miss...worse, a transition back to the missed target...even worse, the extra reload. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nik Habicht Posted September 10, 2003 Share Posted September 10, 2003 I'll add the ones I'm most guilty of: Not knowing where the next target is and Not knowing exactly where to hit a position that will enable you to either see all targets visible from that position, or to at least see the beginning targets, if it's one of those tight spaces with a big swing where you have to keep shuffling.... And: The mostly shooting production induced I'm moving so I'd better reload, thereby dropping my mag with 15 rounds on the ground, when I only need another six to finish the course of fire, while shooting Limited.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dunn Posted September 10, 2003 Share Posted September 10, 2003 Waiting for steel to fall rather than calling the shot and moving on. Hammering the (last target) steel down with an extra shot when it's already falling. Loading a partial mag that you retardedly put back in your mag holder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benos Posted September 10, 2003 Share Posted September 10, 2003 Every single "movement" you make - physical, visual, or mental - that is not absolutely necessary. Eventually, that's what it all comes down to. be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhino Posted September 11, 2003 Share Posted September 11, 2003 I've been getting hypnotized by the targets (both steel and paper) more and more lately. Looking for the hits even though I know they are there really slows me down. On Sunday, the first two shots I fired in the match were two nearly perfect upper A-zone hits and I KNEW it from the sight picture I had after both shots. UNfortunately, as I was shifting to the next target, those two little holes in the head caught my peripheral vision and I spent not only the rest of that stage, but the rest of the match looking for my hits in the target. At one time, I'd broken myself of this habit, but somehow I'm doing it again and perhaps even worse each time I shoot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reneet Posted September 11, 2003 Share Posted September 11, 2003 Pulling the trigger on an empty chamber. If in doubt, rack the slide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loves2Shoot Posted September 11, 2003 Share Posted September 11, 2003 My fav ~ Starting with one in the chamber and no mag in the gun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reneet Posted September 11, 2003 Share Posted September 11, 2003 My fav ~ Starting with one in the chamber and no mag in the gun Or starting with mag in the gun without one in the chamber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ankeny Posted September 11, 2003 Share Posted September 11, 2003 For open shooters, starting with the dot turned off kinda sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooterj Posted September 11, 2003 Share Posted September 11, 2003 locking your holster after LAMR the yanking one whole side of your body off the ground while trying to draw!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted September 11, 2003 Author Share Posted September 11, 2003 Another time waster... - Trying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhino Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 My fav ~ Starting with one in the chamber and no mag in the gun Or starting with mag in the gun without one in the chamber Or loading your barney bullet, then not seating the next mag fully before you go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcoliver Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 Last minute game plan changes because the shooter just ahead of you showed you a "better" way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blkbrd Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 Trying to hard to go fast and running right by a target, those failure to engage penalties will ruin your day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted September 12, 2003 Author Share Posted September 12, 2003 There is some good stuff coming out here. Lets try to idnetify chronic time eaters...not just one-time foul-ups. mcoliver & blkbrd's last posts could fall under: - Not having a solid plan...and sticking to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikW Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 - Looking at paper targets, scoring hits while the clock is running. - Missing steel. - Inefficient engagement order. - Re-seating (double-pumping) magazines on reloads. - Extra-long last shot (after going dry, having a jam, etc.). - Looking at feet and fault lines after coming to a position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimel Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 - Taking a makeup shot a couple seconds after I stop shooting thus adding an eternity to my time. - Running all around the bay to get closer to the targets instead of taking shots that are a bit longer and travelling a straighter line when I know damn good and well that I can make the longer shots with no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhino Posted September 13, 2003 Share Posted September 13, 2003 I found a way to keep myself from looking for the holes in the targets. If I wear a mosquito net over my head, I can't see the targets well enough to see the holes, but I can see my front sight okay. It actually helped. Uh, not that I was practicing or anything like that. I was, uh, function testing a new gun. Yeah, that's it. Function testing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin c Posted September 22, 2003 Share Posted September 22, 2003 Putting yourself/your gun into, and then getting out of, a port, a door, or any other shooting position that you didn't need to be in to make the shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedshooter Posted September 22, 2003 Share Posted September 22, 2003 One of the biggest time wasters I see people do is not having the gun up and ready to engage targets when they enter a shooting position. They will run into a spot, come to a stop, then bring up the gun and start shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Dunlop Posted September 22, 2003 Share Posted September 22, 2003 Kevin, I agree, but I would add, being too concerned about not "Putting yourself/your gun into, and then getting out of, a port, a door, or any other shooting position that you didn't need to be in to make the shot." Very often a simple base movement is far quicker than pussyfooting around trying to be 'technically correct', P.D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin c Posted September 24, 2003 Share Posted September 24, 2003 P.D.: Fair 'nough, but I was mostly talking about my unfortunate habit of sticking my gun through a port to shoot, or coming all the way up to a barricade to address targets that are visible further away, or opening blocked doors and then stepping through them to take the targets, even though I can see them before the threshold. Absolutely no economy of motion, and not even tactically sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Moneypenny Posted October 8, 2003 Share Posted October 8, 2003 I think charging the prop/port etc. are very common also, improper entry into position. and sunday at an IDPA match... taking a knee... super slow at that i shaved a full second off of others draw times just by doing it more efficiently (just dropping my back leg out. not stepping forward to a knee) several other things like not taking shots on the move. not using the best economy of motion/doing things that don't need to be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Di Vita Posted October 8, 2003 Share Posted October 8, 2003 Not having TOTAL confidence in your abilities to make each shot with no problem and most importantly no hesitation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear1142 Posted October 8, 2003 Share Posted October 8, 2003 Movement in general. Most people take it for granted. Its common knowledge there are proper ways to enter/exit a box, but its so much more than that. There's lead steps, cross steps, drag steps, shuffle steps, half steps, weight transfer, open stances, closed stances, hip orientation, etc..., none of this takes into account the range/weather conditions or footware. Erik Warren could probably tell you how many times I slipped and slid around the Open Nationals stages. I didn't have the proper shoes for the terrain. It cost me so much time across the match I couldn't begin to add it up. Shooters don't think twice about breaking down reloads or draws into the "N"th degree to try to save a 1/4 second, but most of them take movement for granted because we've be doing it our entire lives. For example, I don't have to shoot faster than you on a stage to win. All I have to do is beat you to a box by a second and I'll win, all else being equal. Conversely, you have to push your shooting skills harder to catch me. This also increases your chances of making mistakes, making it that much easier for me to win. Take some of your critical thinking skills and start breaking down your physical movement in all aspects of your shooting. You will save seconds, not just fractions without ever having to pull the trigger any faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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