benelli2 Posted April 20, 2003 Share Posted April 20, 2003 Never had much time to figure this one out so give a slow southern boy some help. What is the best pump shotgun and why for shooting tactical type stuff? This iron mam class might catch on. Smile Kyle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Thompson Posted April 20, 2003 Share Posted April 20, 2003 Benelli Nova. Extremely reliable and has the smoothest action around. Not the easiest gun to find upgrades for though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tightloop Posted April 20, 2003 Share Posted April 20, 2003 Don't know about tactical shooting, but based on the longevity and number sold, it might be the Remington 870. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhino Posted April 20, 2003 Share Posted April 20, 2003 You can't go wrong with an 870 or a Mossberg 590. I hear the Winchester 1300 is pretty smooth, though, and you can get it from the factory with an extended tube too. But really, shouldn't everyone have at least one Rem 870 in their house? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dunn Posted April 20, 2003 Share Posted April 20, 2003 I'll put my vote in for the Mossberg. It tested well enough to get military contracts, and I find it easier to reload than the 870 due to the unobstructed loading port. I also like the position of the safety (tang). I'll admit to a sentimental bias as this was my first shotgun (age 12). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Thompson Posted April 20, 2003 Share Posted April 20, 2003 I'll agree with the 870 although the Nova has a much smoother action. I really disagree with the mossberg, they have an action rougher than the 870 and I've frequently seen them break if shot a lot. I have a thousand rounds or so through my Benelli without a hitch and our 870's at work are ancient and still going even though they get shot every month with 00 buck and slugs. I'm not big on tang safeties, they have a tendency to be activated during hard fast shooting when the trigger hand starts to ride up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benelli2 Posted April 20, 2003 Author Share Posted April 20, 2003 ok, how about extended mag tubes for the nova? anyone got a clue if a super 90 will go on there? Or is there no way to get it on, I'm not familiar with how the barrel and mag tube attach on a nova. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chriss Grube Posted April 20, 2003 Share Posted April 20, 2003 Get the 870. Easy to modify with all kinds of readily available parts and the run and run and run. If my guys can't break them you're good too go. I have guys that can break ball bearings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyleL Posted April 20, 2003 Share Posted April 20, 2003 If you want a proven performer go for the Remington 870. The military ordered a bunch of Mossbergs because they were cheap, and guess what they got, just what they paid for... The tang safety's work sometimes and when they quit you need a screwdriver to fix them. Remington has ambi safety, actually you can switch it back and forth, plenty of extras out there to add on, very reliable. And I don't think there is another good pump that is also made in the USA. Of course I could be wrong... KyleL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricW Posted April 20, 2003 Share Posted April 20, 2003 The only time I've ever shot a Mossburg was with heavy buckshot loads. (The owner had bought a case of shells in a vain attempt to "break" the gun in and smooth out the action.) He and his buddy got very sore and started to pass the gun up and down the firing line. The particular gun was so poorly made, that the action actually seemed to "weld" itself shut. (This didn't happen with light loads.) It took a tremendous yank to rack the action - after which shoving the pump back forward was equally entertaining. For action/defensive shooting, I think the 870 is surely king. For birds and clays, take a look at the Browning BPS. It's ambidextrious, throws the shells at your feet, and has a tang safety - which is a very practical feature for hunting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBF Posted April 21, 2003 Share Posted April 21, 2003 I will just guess that the Mossbergs I have experience with are different, they work fine. I like the 590. Winchester and Remington are fine too. I heard mention that mossbergs break often, please elaborate, I need to know. Between my son and I we have 4. As for smoothness of action, they really smooth out after 1000 rounds or so. Travis F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intel6 Posted April 21, 2003 Share Posted April 21, 2003 If I ever shot Ironman I would probably just use my Benelli M3S90. Don't know if it is better than my 870's or not? It is actually an interesting SG to shoot. Since you are compressing the action spring when you are pumping to the rear it gives you a "assist" when closing the action. It is definatly lighter than an 870 so it does recoil a bit more when shooting but it still shoots good. I suppose for the Benelli guys they would like to still have the extra round on the carrier with a pump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkmccoy Posted April 23, 2003 Share Posted April 23, 2003 I have remained silent as long as I can... Remington vs. Mossberg vs. Benelli??? In a discussion of the best pumpgun (for tactical use)? Is there really any question of the best pumpgun (for any use)? Winchester M12!!! Of course you will need to find a gunsmith to build the custom mount for the Optima (Open Division of course)... and the 10 round magazine tube, anyone can add the Cutts Compensator... Of course, a pretty walnut stock and a 1950's style rubber recoil pad add to the overall style... Cheers, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liota Posted April 23, 2003 Share Posted April 23, 2003 Kelly, Not sure I would agree with it being the best, but the most fun? Oh yeah! It shoots well, too! Come to think of it, I don't think I ever saw it jam. The Cutts Comp is even cooler in person. Liota Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhino Posted April 23, 2003 Share Posted April 23, 2003 I have remained silent as long as I can...Remington vs. Mossberg vs. Benelli??? In a discussion of the best pumpgun (for tactical use)? Is there really any question of the best pumpgun (for any use)? Winchester M12!!! That's a sweet looking gun! It makes me wonder about doing something similar to a Model 1897! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakal Posted April 23, 2003 Share Posted April 23, 2003 The M97 has the limitation of the 5-round tube, but it will accept a 17" bayonet...how DO you score bayonet holes? A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricW Posted April 23, 2003 Share Posted April 23, 2003 The M97 has the limitation of the 5-round tube, but it will accept a 17" bayonet...how DO you score bayonet holes? No points for slashing targets, but you do get the 10 point bonus for the coolness. Having a stock that's nailed, glued, or duct-taped back together is good for another 5 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berettashooter Posted April 30, 2003 Share Posted April 30, 2003 Buy a Benelli Nova! Here in Italy i compete in the local pratical shotgun championship. Master and granmaster (as i am) use only the Nova in limited class. Best is the 61cm ribbed barrel. You can have seven shot in the tube. See you in Terni this august. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loves2Shoot Posted April 30, 2003 Share Posted April 30, 2003 http://www.gunbroker.com/auction/ViewItem....sp?Item=8615960 The Benelli M3Super90 would get my vote as the best pump shotgun (and since it goes semi auto also you don't need two shotguns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Thompson Posted May 1, 2003 Share Posted May 1, 2003 I have the three shot extension on my Nova but I don't know where one can get one anymore. All the pump matches around here limit five in the gun anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atek3 Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 I shoot heavy metal class (12 ga pump, irons only, full power ammo only). Who sells a rem 870 set up for this kind of competition? atek3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Snyder Posted November 28, 2004 Share Posted November 28, 2004 Jeff...open up the ejection port a little on the 870 like an 1897 ...... D. Beal just got a 16ga for Cowboy Action...can pull 4 at a time from loops to single load over the top.....If you guys going with the HeMan pump guns have never seen a world class cowboy action shooter single load you will be impressed.... regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinistralRifleman Posted November 28, 2004 Share Posted November 28, 2004 The Mossberg has superior ergonomics to the Remington, but I've had better luck with Remingtons lasting and the actions feel smoother to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Boudrie Posted November 28, 2004 Share Posted November 28, 2004 Alludium Q38 Pumpkin Modulator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtm Posted November 28, 2004 Share Posted November 28, 2004 Benelli Dos. 870 or Benelli Nova. I know the 870 has been around quite a while, and I also know that when I used to gunsmith full time I fixed more than my fair share, usually due to owner abuse. The Nova is a new system and as of yet I don't know about the reliability, but it seems OK. I know the Germans have played quit a bit with them and have done some really cool stuff to them, like lengthening the action bars in the fore grip so it feel like it only moves about 2" for full cycle. They have also figured out the mag extention, it is different than the M1 S 90s. The one I played with in Itally impressed the heck out of me! for ease of loading it is WAY better than the 870, and it can be ported out and polished just the way youi have done you M1. I would do a search on IRONHANDS and get hold of some of the German guys and they probably can get you some cool info. I also bet that RockinHtacticle could make an extention for the Nova in short order! KURTM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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