nhglyn Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 I have a 1050 set up to do 38 Super and a 550 (with casefeeder) set up to do either 45 auto, 357 sig, or 50ae. If I wanted to start reloading 9mm, as I plan to shoot more of that, what would be the most economical: 1. Keep buying bulk packs of WWB at Wally World. 2. Set up the 550 to load 9mm. Cost of getting a 9mm setup with dies, conversion kit, casefeeder conversion etc? What would I need to get? 3. Set up the 1050 to do the 9mm. Cost of getting a 9mm setup with dies, conversion kit, casefeeder conversion etc? What would I need to get? 4. Which would be easier to convert to 9 mm, I assume the 550. If I buy a setup for either 550 or 1050 will I really end up saving $$$ over the Wally World bulk packs (now at $15.70 here in NH). Brass would be basically free and I have a good variety of powders. Thanks for your feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RePete Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 I can't speak for the prices of ammo in the US, but set the 1050 up for 9mm and get KISS bullet feeder and load for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhglyn Posted September 12, 2007 Author Share Posted September 12, 2007 Should have mentioned that I already do have KISS bullet feeder on the 1050. What would I have to get to do 9mm on it? New base for dies, dies, shellplate? Or will shellplate for 38 super work with 9 mm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireant Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 I think the shell plate will work for both 9mm and 38 super. Just change out the dies and go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogiebb Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 all you need is dies i bought my used rl 1050 in 38 super config and now reload 9mm major on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhglyn Posted September 12, 2007 Author Share Posted September 12, 2007 I'd rather not "screw up" my 38 super setup. Can't I just buy a new base for the dies, get the 9 mm dies, and then just switch that out when changing from 38 super to 9 mm? What would that new setup cost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aircooled6racer Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Hello: I vote to reload the 9mm. You find brass everywhere and it will cost less than WWB. How many rounds of 9mm do you shoot? If you shoot alot of 9mm I would get the dies for the 1050 and don't look back. There is a 1050 manual you can download on the Dillon site that gives the parts needed for the conversions of different calibers(very helpful). I am in the process of setting up 9mm on my RL1050 right now. It is going to be so much faster than my Square Deal B. Hope this helps. Thanks, Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Watson Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 I load .45 ACP on a S1050 and have NO plans to change calibers on that complicated beast. You might have an easier time of it if the shellplate was the same; there would be no change in primer feed. I load 9mm on a 550. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aircooled6racer Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 In that case the 1050 conversion will be about $250 for the 1050. You need the 9mm dies,9mm expander, quick change toolhead conversion. The 550 conversion will be less. Thanks, Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWLAZS Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Glyn just order a new press in 9mm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 I switch from 38 Supercomp to 9mm and back on my 1050 every so often. Those two require changing the shellplate, but that's not a big deal since you have the toolhead off anyway. It's about a 10-15-minute conversion if you have a separate toolhead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireant Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Yeah, but super and super comp use different shell plates. 9mm and super normally use the same shell plate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhglyn Posted September 13, 2007 Author Share Posted September 13, 2007 So, in summary, if I already do 38 super (not comp) I can keep the same shellplate and buttons and just change the toolhead with a set of dies set up for 9mm. Would not have to change anything in casefeeder or KISS bulletfeeder. Is that the bottom line? Is changing toolhead easy as undoing bolt? Is there any aligning to do when putting a new toolhead on? Anything else I need to know? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Sierpina Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Glyn, My 1050 was set up for 38 Super. When I shot 9x21 all I did was change the sizing die. and adjust the rest. No shell plate or button change. Now, it's churning out .40 S&W.....same shell plate and buttons! Change it over....load a ton of 9mm then change it back for Super. Nice shooting with you at the Sectional too. Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogiebb Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Changing calibers and shellplates in 1050's are a PITA. when i bought my RL 1050 i asked the guys in Dillon to set it up for 40sw , now i reload only 9mm on the press with a 40sw shellplate and the same toolhead ,all i have to do is change the dies ,powder drop and Locator buttons ....thats the beauty of having ONLY to load small pistol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benos Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Even though Glyn and I discussed this on the phone this morning... for the benefit of future surfers... The only difference between a 1050 in 38 Super and a 1050 in 9mm is the Dies in the machine. So if you have a 1050 in 38 Super and you want to load 9mm on it, get a 1050 Quick-Change Toolhead and 9mm Dies and you'll be all set. be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 So, in summary, if I already do 38 super (not comp) I can keep the same shellplate and buttons and just change the toolhead with a set of dies set up for 9mm. Would not have to change anything in casefeeder or KISS bulletfeeder. Is that the bottom line?Is changing toolhead easy as undoing bolt? Is there any aligning to do when putting a new toolhead on? Anything else I need to know? Thanks. You'll want to get an extra KISS die-- whatever they call the threaded metal part that goes in the toolhead-- makes swapping toolheads a matter of undoing the little setscrew on one, popping out the plastic parts, and reversing that on the other (swap the tiny setscrew for a socket-head cap screw in the right size and you can just finger-tighten it which saves a lot of re-adjusting time time and fussing around) You might need to tweak the swager-- I only use it in 9mm, so I adjust for that and ignore it for Supercomp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9x21 Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Anything else I need to know? Thanks. Yep, Just get a new 1050 (if I had your money, I'd throw mine away), another Kiss die & use the same Kiss feeder to load both machines! PS, Hope your loading 9MM 'cause your going production! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhglyn Posted September 14, 2007 Author Share Posted September 14, 2007 PS, Hope your loading 9MM 'cause your going production! No such luck! If I do that, and score those minor points, I would never beat you. Can't beat you as it is now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWLAZS Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 So what are you shooting 9 in? Lets turn this into an if I had Glyns money I would ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhglyn Posted September 14, 2007 Author Share Posted September 14, 2007 So what are you shooting 9 in? Now that I think about it..............maybe I'll dust off the Glock 34 and give Elye a run for his money. I saw he was sitting in 37th place at the Production Nationals, pretty good for a GMPS guy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWLAZS Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 So what are you shooting 9 in? Now that I think about it..............maybe I'll dust off the Glock 34 and give Elye a run for his money. I saw he was sitting in 37th place at the Production Nationals, pretty good for a GMPS guy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWLAZS Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 Where were you on Sunday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhglyn Posted September 14, 2007 Author Share Posted September 14, 2007 Where were you on Sunday Had a bunch of stuff to take care of here in NH as I am leaving tomorrow to go shoot the Long Island Championship this weekend. Will catch up to you guys in October. Now.............go make the world safe from all the criminals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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