dghboy315 Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 (edited) so i've done my research and i've decided to move from my aimpoint and magnifier to the Meopta Meostar R1 1-4x22 - RD. it seems like the best reasonably priced variable power scope for 3gun. i have not had a chance to look thru one, but from my searches, i am hoping it is clearer and has a better field of view at x4. however, i still have a few questions. 1) is the K-Dot the only available reticle? is it the best one for 3gun? 2) how do you sight in with the reticle? for instance, do you use the top of the dot for 50 yards, the bottom for 100yrs, the top of the line for 200 yrds, etc... i use mostly georgia arms .223 55gr FMJ canned heat, although i may be switching to their heavier bullet. 3) what mount should i use for a nose to the charging handle check weld? i prefer larue mounts. 4) is benny hill the best source for this scope? thanks for the help. Edited March 28, 2007 by dghboy315 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny hill Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 Sight in at 200 yd. with the center of the dot. The dot does'nt cover much. Hold dead on for everything from 35yds to 235yds. At 300 yds use the top of the small post below the dot. Remember we are shooting 10" plates at long range & the dot does'nt cover much of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PacMan Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 (edited) 1) K dot is not the only reticle, but it is the only daylight reticle. Yes, it is the best one to use for 3-gunning. 2) Mine is sighted for 250 yds with 55 gr. Similarly to Benny's answer, dead on with everything out to 300. At 350 laRue, put the dot on the head and at 400, I used the top of the vertical hash mark. Distance between the bottom of the dot and tip of this hash mark is about 4 moa 3) Armalite mount and A2 stock length. Not as sexy as the laRue mount, but works for me (and $100 less ) Edited March 28, 2007 by PacMan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken hebert Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 JP mount for mine, lovely. Illumination is SUPREMELY visible in the daylight. I switched from a Leupold 1.5x5 illum to the Meopta, and pardon the pun, but the difference is night and day. Good move, you won't regret the purchase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uscbigdawg Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 For a mount, look at the Larue SPR 1.5, which I think has a different name now. A good place to find these is from SKD Tactical. Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Religious Shooter Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 I don't really "zero" my rifle. I set it up to shoot +1.5" @ 100 yards with 55 FMJBT Winchesters or +2" @ 100 yards with 69 Noslers. Or at lease as close to those figures as I can. With the Meopta you have a reference point out to 400 yards with the above settings. With 55's I think: DOT as reference... 0-325 ish yards POST as reference... 325+ yards 0-25 yards: Dot at TOP of target. 25-250 yards: Dot at CENTER of target. 275 yards: High 8 ball. 300 yards: Dot's center at the TOP OF TARGET. (transition to top of POST as reference) 325 yards: Outside lollipop or 6 O'Clock hold. 350 yards: Inserted lollipop. 400 yards: Post at top of target. I'm very visual so I did these graphical representations. 55_Win__1.5_inches.pdf 69_Nosler__2_inches.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Orr Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 Nice and accurate reference from Goro..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 All above info is accurate, I zero mine like Benny and use the same holds, have the same mount as Hung (Armalite). When you first look through it you'll think we are all nuts but it does work as advertised. Very fast scope, screams on the close stuff. I also shot 6 yotes with mine. Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulW Posted March 31, 2007 Share Posted March 31, 2007 Ok I think I have to have one of these scopes. Have heard all the good stuff, and now just have to have one. I have been switching off and on between a C-more Tactical (built in rear sight) and a Weaver 1x3. Nice little scope, just ready to get bumped up. Where is the best place to buy one and how much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joelhilgy Posted March 31, 2007 Share Posted March 31, 2007 (edited) Contact Alex Roy over at www.eurooptic.com and have him send you his price list. He has many on order, and seems to get them in on a regular basis. I'm in line for one now. -Joel Edited March 31, 2007 by joelhilgy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cactustactical Posted March 31, 2007 Share Posted March 31, 2007 (edited) Meopta USA ( the importer) has not had any of these scopes since before the Shot Show, last time we talked to them. Personal belief is that the sudden popularity over the last year caught the factory by surprise and overwhelmed their production schedule. You might find someone who has one in stock by luck, anything is possible. Otherwise, you will have to wait until they start shipping them out again. We were told 2 weeks 5 weeks ago, so I have no idea when they will actually come back in the country. Edited March 31, 2007 by Cactustactical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dghboy315 Posted March 31, 2007 Author Share Posted March 31, 2007 thanks for the info guys. i made the plung. i found a slightly used meopta on an spr-s larue mount on ar15.com for $825 including shipping. it's on its way. it supposed to be in perfect condition w/ only 80rnd fired thru the gun it was mounted on. hopefully, it will be as described to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiking Posted April 2, 2007 Share Posted April 2, 2007 What is the dot size on the Meostar at 1x and 4x? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roar M Posted April 2, 2007 Share Posted April 2, 2007 What is the dot size on the Meostar at 1x and 4x? Are you thinking of a Meopta?? Go for Zeiss... I think there are two dot sizes on the Meopta. But I'm note sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PacMan Posted April 2, 2007 Share Posted April 2, 2007 What is the dot size on the Meostar at 1x and 4x? 2 moa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jobob Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 I recently got a Meostar with the plain plex reticle. Non-illuminated. Very nice scope. The cross hairs are a bit fine, though, which is great for the long shots. I hope I don't lose them on the fast/close targets. I switched also from a Weaver 1-3. That's a very good scope for the money, but just a little lacking on the longer shots. If the Weaver was a 1-4 I'd probably still be using it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtm Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 The dot is 8 MOA on 1X and a true 2 MOA on 4X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chills1994 Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 (edited) (thread drift on) Okay, I'm a tight wad. Now that we have that out of the way, I did stop by the Meopta and Leupold booths yesterday at the NRA show. The Meopta rep said that their scope is price pointed at $750. He did go on to say that they were surprised at how much demand for that one scope has shot up. I told him to thank the Brian Enos forums for that. Then I made my way over to the Leupold area and asked about their CQT (or CQB scope?) and their rep said it price points for $550. Do you all really think there is 200 bucks worth of difference between the Leupold and the Meopta red dots? Plus I don't know how that Leupold attaches to an AR, if it needs a separate mount and rings or if it's good to go as is. That would save at least an additional 100 bucks vs. the Meopta right there. (drift off) Much grass! Edited April 14, 2007 by Chills1994 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Religious Shooter Posted April 15, 2007 Share Posted April 15, 2007 I think you may have gotten the model or the price wrong. The CQT sells for around $700. http://www.swfa.com/c-270-leupold-mark-4-c...iflescopes.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chills1994 Posted April 15, 2007 Share Posted April 15, 2007 That's just what the rep told me. Then again he might have gotten that confused w/ dealer pricing too. If I go back to the NRA show tomorrow, I'll ask again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceghost Posted April 15, 2007 Share Posted April 15, 2007 So, and I realize this is comparing apples and oranges.. but, For what I pay for an EoTech and 3x magnifier, I could have the Meostar that is 1x4. Is the Meostar as fast in the 3-50 yd range as an EoTech? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricW Posted April 15, 2007 Share Posted April 15, 2007 Anybody taking backorders on the Meopta 1-4? Anyone used both the Meopta and the US Optics SN-4? How do they compare? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cactustactical Posted April 15, 2007 Share Posted April 15, 2007 Eric, we are still waiting on a new shipment of the 1 - 4's. If you would like, I can have you notified when they come in. We aren't doing back orders, not real good business, IMO, to hold peoples money on an item where the delivery keeps slipping. So, when they come in, it will be first come, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Posted April 15, 2007 Share Posted April 15, 2007 Spaceghost, it is fair to compare the two as you are looking for the optic that will best suit your needs of engageing targets from contact to 400 yds. Thanks to my friends I was an early adopter of the Meopta and it has served me well, also have the Eotech mounted on a short AR that goes with me in the tractor and combine for varmints. IMHO the Meopta will do anything the eotech will close in and a lot better when past 100 yd. Have never used the 3X magnifier but people I trust tell me it gives a tube effect and limites FOV. You also have the advantage of running the scope at any power between 1 and 4, which happens more than one might think. Have run mine on 2X several times for midrange targets that were spread out. If anyone gets the chance to talk with the Meopta people again impress upon them the purchasing power of the competition shooting community, and have them pony up some prize table scopes. Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Religious Shooter Posted April 15, 2007 Share Posted April 15, 2007 Is the Meostar as fast in the 3-50 yd range as an EoTech? To me the Meopta isn't as fast as a true red dot from 0-15 yards. For me there's some "distortion" at 1X that I don't find in a red dot (C-More from personal experience). But the difference in performance at 0-15 yards is not that big a difference when you compare the difference (for me) between a non-magnified optic vs. a 1-4X at the 15-350 yard targets. From 15+ yards on I prefer magnification. I have a much easier time in calling the shot with magnification than without. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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