clown Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Ran across this on foxnews.com. Taser introduced their new civilian model at the consumer electronics show and foxnews reporter Mike Straka volunteered to be zapped for 3 seconds. Gotta love the dedication. The video is entertaining. taser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micah Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 I was wondering if they were going to have to bleep out something before watching it. Only one f-bomb? I'm impressed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougCarden Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Unless they changed something.....the "civilian model" taser will taze for 30 seconds, allowing you to run away to get help while the bad guy is incapacitated..... I didnt mind getting the 3 seconds, but 30 seconds, no thanks...... DougC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clown Posted January 12, 2007 Author Share Posted January 12, 2007 maybe some members that are police officers will tell us how 10 seconds feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carinab Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 (edited) I took a retention/disarment class where we had to draw and fire while getting zapped with a stun gun in a major muscle group....it fricking hurt for sure. I'm guessing with the tazer that the electrical overload is so much that your muscles are overwhelmed by the electrical impulse making it impossible to move. Much of our class was able to draw and fire rounds while getting zapped with the stun gun, me included. Is it the direct skin contact or different levels of amperage/volts or is it something else that makes a tazer more effective at immobilization than a stun gun? Edited January 12, 2007 by carinab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AikiDale Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 I may be way off base here, having had the distinct pleasure of never being zapped by either device thank you very much, but it is my understanding from the limited reading I've done it is the surprise as much as the jolt itself. That's why LEO classes are subjected to both. Once you understand it hurts like hell but you can keep fighting a large percentage of the population can continue after being hit with either. YMMV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougCarden Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 (edited) Negative, ghost rider.... Out of 28 Officers, I did not see one that could fight through it, or get through 5 secs without going down. Even our Marine, who is the toughest guy I have ever met, couldnt do more that 4 secs. The involuntary muscle spasms and your muscles locking up on you is what incapacitates you. Pepper doesnt work on everyone, but this works as long as you get both probes into the person. I think it is God's gift to LE and wish every officer had it at their disposal. Less people getting hurt on both sides of the aisle! Now, when it shuts off you can be ready to fight, but while it is on.....you really cant do much..... DougC Edited January 12, 2007 by DougC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ima45dv8 Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 My recollection is that the Taser-type devices operate in the same general frequency range as the human central nervous system. High voltage (~50,000V) but low current, firing signals that your muscles respond to involuntarily. That would explain the very tense posture most folks exhibit while being juiced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Orr Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 I would really like to see some "brave Journalists" tasered, myself. Repeatedly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDRODA396 Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 I would really like to see some "brave Journalists" tasered, myself. Repeatedly. +1 Bump for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue edge Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Brave Journalist or Dumb A$$ ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 I'm with Doug on this one. I'll gladly take the 3 second burst as opposed to the 30 seconds. I can't imagine what the 30 seconds is like after doing the wussy 3 second jolt. Still, given a choice, I say I would rather get tasered (for 3 seconds ) than get pepper sprayed. That crap just lingers. Ya know, it's stuff like that that I really don't miss from that line of work. Even though I only did it part time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tightloop Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 We don';t have to limit it to journalists, I have a whole list of people I would love to see get tasered, starting with Hillary Clinton, Al Sharpton, and a few dozen others.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
folsoml Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Negative, ghost rider.... Out of 28 Officers, I did not see one that could fight through it, or get through 5 secs without going down. Even our Marine, who is the toughest guy I have ever met, couldnt do more that 4 secs. The involuntary muscle spasms and your muscles locking up on you is what incapacitates you. Pepper doesnt work on everyone, but this works as long as you get both probes into the person. I think it is God's gift to LE and wish every officer had it at their disposal. Less people getting hurt on both sides of the aisle! Now, when it shuts off you can be ready to fight, but while it is on.....you really cant do much..... DougC Very true. You do not fight through the taser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GentlemanJim Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 We don';t have to limit it to journalists, I have a whole list of people I would love to see get tasered, starting with Hillary Clinton, Al Sharpton, and a few dozen others.... I would pay real money for a ticket to that show!! Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carinab Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 So the difference then is the volts delivered between a stun gun and a tazer....Time to go google. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ima45dv8 Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 So the difference then is the volts delivered between a stun gun and a tazer....Time to go google. I don't think it's just a difference of voltage. The frequency range of the blast is very deliberate. There are cattle prods with higher voltage and they hurt like sin, but they don't disrupt your ability to function like these devices designed to interfere with the CNS. All that twitching around is from having way too many muscles firing at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clown Posted January 12, 2007 Author Share Posted January 12, 2007 Method of Incapacitation: TASER ECDs utilize a state-of-the-art Neuro-Muscular Incapacitation (NMI) technology that temporarily overrides the nervous system, taking over muscular control. This NMI technology temporarily debilitates even the toughest individuals with minimal risk of injury. Existing stun systems stimulate sensory neurons and can be over-ridden by a focused individual. The TASER devices directly stimulate motor nerve tissue, causing incapacitation regardless of mental focus, training, size, or drug induced dementia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ima45dv8 Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Yeah......well.......that's what I meant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Yeah, the 'stun guns' just hurt, and not that much. The tazers really do seem to have an effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Few years ago at the Shot Show, one of the Taser Girls volunteered to get tasered. You should have seen how fast all the guys were running to help her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokshwn Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Carina, The way the taser works is by delivering the electricity at a very specific frequency. That frequency then activates all skeletal musculature. In doing so you essentially cause a contraction of every skeletal musle in the body. The beauty/safety of this method is there is no effect to smooth muscle function (heart, bowel, gut, etc). I know one instructor locally puts a $100 bill on a table in front of you when it is time to be tased. If you can get it it's yours. He hasn't lost one yet. Trying to compare a stun gun to a taser is like trying to compare plucking a single eyebrow to getting a brazilian wax from your enemy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carinab Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 Trying to compare a stun gun to a taser is like trying to compare plucking a single eyebrow to getting a brazilian wax from your enemy. Mmmkay, I just want to know why you were getting a brazilian wax from an enemy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimel Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 I want to know why he was getting a wax, period. No wait...I don't want to know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3quartertime Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 The local radio station was interviewing the cast of a new show called 'Armed and Famous'. Bascially they take some washed up loser celebs and laugh at them as they try to be cops. Sounds pretty stupid, but they made the celebs get tazed for the show. They played a sound clip of when they shot Latoya Jackson and the sounds she made were huh,,, well sounded like she might have liked it, alot!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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