IronEqualizer Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 I was practicing today and set up two targets to move from box to box. The buzzer went off and I went to move to the first box and got a killer cramp in my thigh. I have had cramps in my calf muscles before but I have never experienced one in my thigh. I actually thought I had shot myself. My question is I had not fired a shot and I know locally I most likely would have been allowed a reshoot but what about big matches? I know one thing for sure it sure limited any movement practice for the rest of the session. I just hope it's not sore as hell in the morning because I have a match tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tightloop Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 Probably NOT if the buzzer has already gone off... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n2ipsc Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 Probably NOT if the buzzer has already gone off... Correct - see 9.10.3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSeevers Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 no reshoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aircooled6racer Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 Hello: If you are getting cramps then try taking some calcium tablets. Tums will work or a large glass of milk. Hope this helps. Thanks Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmoney Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 Hello: If you are getting cramps then try taking some calcium tablets. Tums will work or a large glass of milk. Hope this helps. Thanks Eric Haven't I heard that bananas (potassium) are good for curing muscle cramps?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihatepickles Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 Potassium is good for preventing cramping but not stopping ongoing cramps. If you're having cramps you need to hydrate to get rid of them and it's probably too late to eat a banana. Hydration starts many hours before the event not in the car on the way to the range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uscbigdawg Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 Potassium will help. Hydration 2-3 days prior is the best prevention. BTW, you can get the same levels of potassium from oranges as you can with bananas without the same level of sugars. Bananas are a great natural weight gainer. Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritinUSA Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 ...Bananas are a great natural weight gainer. And yet I've never seen a fat monkey... how strange is that ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Round_Gun_Shooter Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 (edited) Hello: If you are getting cramps then try taking some calcium tablets. Tums will work or a large glass of milk. Hope this helps. Thanks Eric Haven't I heard that bananas (potassium) are good for curing muscle cramps?? Actually Quinine Sulfate works the best. Keep a bottle of Quinine water in your bag. Mine are so bad I have a prescription for Quinine tablets. It used to be you could by Dr Scholls "Legatrin" which was a quinine tablet. Unfortunately, it became a regulated drug. And as someone already said, No re shoot Edited November 5, 2006 by Round_Gun_Shooter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronEqualizer Posted November 5, 2006 Author Share Posted November 5, 2006 I was hydrated and do take multi vitamins daily. I think it started from last weekend when I was helping my brother-in-law get ready for the sherriff's department. We were practicing and he wanted a frigging 50 yd sprint to the first box on every drill. Needless to say I was sore a few days early this week but thought it was gone. Guess not. Cardboard doesn't run and neither do I. Thank God for close ports and only 8 ft long walls. He did get qualified though which is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vluc Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 My question is I had not fired a shot and I know locally I most likely would have been allowed a reshoot but what about big matches? Why would you get a reshoot at your local club? Do they use a different set of rules? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bayoupirate Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 If I was the RO even at a local match, and you stopped youself saying, "I have a bad cramp." I'd simply say, "The Clock is running." If you didn't continue to shoot the course, I'd say, "If you are finished, Unload and show clear." I would feel bad about your situation, but I would follow the rule. Had a similar situation with a shooter who got DQed, and afterward said "I knew I shouldn't have shot because I wasn't feeling well". He could have asked to move his shooting position to the end of the squad. When given the command, "Load and Make Ready", He could have simply stated I'm unable to shoot at this time. If the cramp came on after the start signal (BEEP!!!!), You're on the clock. +1 on all of the hydration/nutritional info here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronEqualizer Posted November 5, 2006 Author Share Posted November 5, 2006 Well maybe no reshoot locally...........who knows............it didn't happen at a match....and if it did I probably would have just sucked it up and went. So a good question to people who RO there local matches. Would you permit a reshoot or not? I know 2 of em's answers already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nik Habicht Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 Well maybe no reshoot locally...........who knows............it didn't happen at a match....and if it did I probably would have just sucked it up and went. So a good question to people who RO there local matches. Would you permit a reshoot or not? I know 2 of em's answers already. For match score --- no, sorry. For fun --- absolutely, but we'd do that too, if your gun broke, or any of a myriad other things happened that didn't cause you to DQ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRe Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Right before I was going to shoot Stage 5 at the '06 Double Tap, I started getting a wicked cramp - in my strong hand thumb. Like, I couldn't open the thumb! How the heck do you draw like *that*??? I stretched it and massaged the thumb, palm, and forearm a bit, and still seemed to have problems... luckily, it didn't happen when I drew, but.... d'oh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 No reshoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Heiter Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Ummm, so question. If he's not getting a reshoot then how do you score that. Lots of misses and FTE's I suppose but I'm just not sure what his time should be since not a single shot has been fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 DNF would work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott R Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 9.10.3 Acompetitor who reacts to a start signal but, for any reason, does not continue their attempt at the course of fire and fails to have an official time recorded on the timing device operated by the Range Officer, will be given a zero time and zero score for that course of fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micah Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 I am not a breakfast person, but I ALWAYS have a nutrition shake the morning of a match. Keep your body hydrated and full of nutrients, and the cramps should be a non-issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joecichlid Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 While shooting stage 10 at Area 3 this year I took a side step and dislocated my knee. In my mind I was thinking I really should stop but part of me said keep going and limp through it. OK points with crap time but at least I didn't zero the stage. Afterwards I unloaded, showed clear and about passed out from the pain. Everyone that saw it happen thought for sure I was going down but I managed to keep it together, gun always in a safe direction even though I looked like the Hunchback limping through the stage. I knew I would zero it if I didn't at least finish the stage according to the rules stated above. The crap part of it all was it happened on a reshoot, steel didn't go down with a dead center shot with a Major PF load. Called to have it recalabrated and it took a triple tap to the head zone to get it to even MOVE. If I had sucked up the missed steel I likely wouldn't have gotten hurt. Oh well, live and make sure you have good health behind you when you come up to the line. Joe W. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxshooter Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 In reply to IronEqualizer, no reshoot. Rules are the rules local match or Nationals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejoe Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 No comments on the rules since I haven't had the priviledge to shoot at a competition but as far as cramps go I have plenty of experience with these. The way to deal with it is to flex the muscle that does the opposite action of whatever muscle is cramping. So, if your calf cramps, pull your toes up toward your face. If your thigh cramps, use your hamstrings to bend your leg. Stretching in and of itself is good but the muscular inhibition that occurs when you actually flex the opposite muscle forces the cramp to relax without pulling the cramped muscle fibers apart thereby making you more sore. Hope that helps for future situations. (Not to downplay proper nutrition and hydration because these ARE important). thejoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 Drop down to the ground in pain (set your pistol down on safe, or reholster safe first), and roll around until your ears come off accidentally 5.4.4 A competitor who inadvertently loses eye or ear protection duringa course of fire, or commences a course of fire without them, is entitled to stop, point their firearm in a safe direction and indicate the problem to the Range Official, in which case the provisions of the previous rule will apply. 5.4.5 Any attempt to gain a competitive advantage by removing eye and/or ear protection during a course of fire will be considered unsportsmanlike conduct (see Rule 10.6.3). US5.4.5 A competitor who intentionally loses or displaces eye or ear protection during a course of fire will be disallowed the provisions of 5.4.4, and will be subject to match disqualification (see 10.6.3) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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