lroy Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 (edited) Is there a frame mounted thumb rest that doesn't make racking the slide awkward? I shoot a honcho and wanted to try out LO so I kept everything the same and just put the dot on the slide, but without a racker the GG pedal jams into my hand. Edited September 12, 2023 by lroy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeilAndrew Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Can't you run a racker in LO? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximis228 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 I dont think any frame mounted thumrest will have enough clearance for racking. Even my nitrofin slide stop thumbrest gets in the way when racking over the top sometimes. Due to this, I rack from under with my LO gun. Slows me down by about .25 second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeilAndrew Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 I rack with my palm off of the front of my optic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perttime Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Lots of people seem to rack their (IPSC) Production Optics pistols using the optic as handle. Either with the palm towards the optic, or the palm on the top of the slide and index finger touching the optic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timido Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Ive got a Tevo thumbrest to try once I get this one together. I am going to try it out with optic racker or just dryfire with double sided tape before I drill holes in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsmarty386 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 the rpg2 convex thumb rest is low profile and easy to rack the slide. also if you wanted a slide stop version, the Atlas one is great. this is what i have on my LO guns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whan Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 I have a large Tevo slide-stop thumbrest on my Tanfo. As a right handed shooter, I rack using the optic by tilting the gun left, and using the bottom right of my palm to rack the upper right corner of the optic. This way it provides clearance from the thumb rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attakmint Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 It's been hard to get a plate from PT for the Honcho recently, so I found a guy on eBay who will make a RMR/SRO or RTS2/Romeo3 footprint plate. The side of the plate is drilled and tapped for a Canik racker. There's not enough room for a thumb between the racker and your safety, so I will be running it on the outside of my strong hand (palm side, not thumb side when gripping the gun). I have a TEvo thumb rest, and I'll also have a (3d printed) spacer so I have some clearance between my slide and thumb rest so I can use the same thumb rest in Open and LO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsmarty386 Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 18 hours ago, Timido said: Ive got a Tevo thumbrest to try once I get this one together. I am going to try it out with optic racker or just dryfire with double sided tape before I drill holes in it. just noticed that you had a prodigy grip on that build. were you able to buy the grip aftermarket? also did a staccato magwell fit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timido Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 It is off my Prodigy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lroy Posted September 16, 2023 Author Share Posted September 16, 2023 On 9/12/2023 at 2:24 PM, attakmint said: It's been hard to get a plate from PT for the Honcho recently, so I found a guy on eBay who will make a RMR/SRO or RTS2/Romeo3 footprint plate. The side of the plate is drilled and tapped for a Canik racker. There's not enough room for a thumb between the racker and your safety, so I will be running it on the outside of my strong hand (palm side, not thumb side when gripping the gun). I have a TEvo thumb rest, and I'll also have a (3d printed) spacer so I have some clearance between my slide and thumb rest so I can use the same thumb rest in Open and LO. Interesting. Can you post a photo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedwagon Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 (edited) On 9/12/2023 at 9:10 AM, VeilAndrew said: Can't you run a racker in LO? Rackers are allowed in LO. Edited September 17, 2023 by Speedwagon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attakmint Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 (edited) 13 hours ago, lroy said: Interesting. Can you post a photo? I'm away from home right now, but I'll post it next week. The plate from eBay Edited September 17, 2023 by attakmint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attakmint Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 On 9/16/2023 at 6:17 AM, lroy said: Interesting. Can you post a photo? Here's some pics of the plate/racker mocked up. You can see how the Taylor Freelance Canik racker gets in the way of my thumb disengaging the safety, even with my modest hand size. Plate I'm pretty sure is aluminum, so I'd want at least blue loctite to hold things together. Hard to get a video of it, but my left hand runs into my right thumb knuckle when racking and the racker is on the left side. So instead I'll set it up like a Czechmate. Those of you with ham hocks for hands will have a worse time than me. I want to shoot some Limited Major with my Honcho for now. I've said I might give LO a spin, seeing as I have everything on hand with the Honcho to shoot it, so maybe later this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timido Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 I got this one from Accuracy X for my Brazos slide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superkaratemonkeyfighter Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 Slick do You have a side photo of that on the gun ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timido Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 I will put one up as soon as I get it back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrloman Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 Timido, is that a custom plate from accuracy X or something they are offering? I can't find it on their website, I have a MPA that already uses their system so if its based off their plates I am definitely interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timido Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 (edited) Give them a call or email they just had some made when I got one. They were great to deal with . They called it a 45 degree racker. I havet had the chance to put it on mine yet to try it out. Edited September 27, 2023 by Timido Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunBugBit Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 (edited) The ability to use a slide racker and a thumbrest in LO means the only advantages in Open over LO is a comp and a frame-mounted optic versus a slide-mounted optic, plus the ability to shoot major in Open. Those who can get their LO gun to shoot really flat and are very accurate at speed should be getting hit factors very close to the Open guys. Edited October 13, 2023 by GunBugBit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timido Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 Major power factor is a huge difference between open and limited optics in my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritinUSA Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 5 minutes ago, Timido said: Major power factor is a huge difference between open and limited optics in my opinion I think this depends a lot on stage design (difficulty and distance of targets) and accuracy of the gun/shooter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximis228 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 16 hours ago, GunBugBit said: Those who can get their LO gun to shoot really flat and are very accurate at speed should be getting hit factors very close to the Open guys. Capacity and Major PF alone give a 7-10% gap between Open and LO for same skilled shooters. This is proven time and time again at majors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motosapiens Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 On 9/12/2023 at 7:10 AM, VeilAndrew said: Can't you run a racker in LO? actually, you are *required* to run a racker in LO, just like in CO, mounted between rear of slide and ejection port. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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