Mag Well for Shadow 2?

[OPENB]

Thinking of trying LO with my S2, just add a mag well and short grips. I’m running Taylor Freelance +5 mag extensions, which are Henning style, with the retainer on the back side rather bulbous compared to Springer or TTI. Any recommendations on a suitable mag well that works with these extensions? I already emailed Robin Taylor about making a mag well for the S2. 

[Fasthenk65]

21 hours ago, OPENB said:

Thinking of trying LO with my S2, just add a mag well and short grips. I’m running Taylor Freelance +5 mag extensions, which are Henning style, with the retainer on the back side rather bulbous compared to Springer or TTI. Any recommendations on a suitable mag well that works with these extensions? I already emailed Robin Taylor about making a mag well for the S2. 

the original cz one works very well see czub.cz 

[wkev]

I got my magwell from Armory Craft and it works great with both Taylor Freelance and Henning extensions.

[Boomstick303]

Does it matter which grips you have for any of the Magwells?  I.e. do all magwells work with Henniing grips, lok grips, etc?

Edited March 5, 2023 by Boomstick303

[OPENB]

5 hours ago, wkev said:

I got my magwell from Armory Craft and it works great with both Taylor Freelance and Henning extensions.

Thanks, that’s useful info. 

 

2 hours ago, Boomstick303 said:

Does it matter which grips you have for any of the Magwells?  I.e. do all magwells work with Henniing grips, lok grips, etc?

From just looking at internet pics, Springer’s mag well appears to sit on the bottom of the grip frame, so standard grips should work. Their description does not mention the need for short grips. Everything else I’ve seen (Toni, CZ, Armory Craft, Boss Components, LOK) all require short grips. Henning responded to my email, and said he’s working on a LO mag well, and Robin Taylor said it sounded like a great idea. We’ll see what shakes out. 

[Boomstick303]

13 minutes ago, OPENB said:

Henning responded to my email, and said he’s working on a LO mag well,

 

I occasionally shoot with Henning, so I will pick his brain.

 

Thanks.

[ColoradoNick]

Bumping this before I order new grips. Interested in doing the same thing for a LO gun with henning extensions 

[Andy9]

I have both the CZ Custom and the LOK Grips magwell. 

For the CZC you need to use the 18 round mags with the 17 round base pads.

The LOK magwell, you do need a thin toped aftermarket base pad but it will work with the 17 round mags.

[sx2gl35]

I have a LOK magwell and the only base pad I could find that works with it is the LOK base pad...it has a round locking plate hole.  

 

Problem is, all my mags have square hole MecGar base pads.  MecGar changed to square hole base pads about three years ago, and no longer has round peg locking plates for sale.  I could find none in the aftermarket.  

 

LOK does not currently make square hole base pads, nor do they make round or square peg locking plates.

 

So, to make things work I had to buy Henning round peg locking plates that decrease round count by one since they are intended to be round count limiting locking plates.  They currently are the only ones I could find that work with LOK base pads, and cost $7.95 each.

 

Sounds like a "square peg in a round hole" situation, for sure.

[Superkaratemonkeyfighter]

Are you talking about extended pads ?

or plus 0 type pads 

[sx2gl35]

Plus 0.

[OPENB]

On 3/17/2023 at 8:18 PM, sx2gl35 said:

Plus 0.

Thanks for adding, but most of us are looking for +4/5 mag extensions to shoot Limited Optics. So we need mag well/mag extension combos that are compatible with each other. I'm really liking the look of the Boss Components grip/mag well combo, but there is no feedback I can find on what +4/5 extension works with it. The BC extension is not high enough capacity.

[sx2gl35]

You are very welcome.  I'm also getting stuff together to shoot Limited Optics.

 

I'm in a 10 round mag limit state and got myself in a jam over base pad locking plates.   To avoid compatibility problems, I chose to go with a supplier that made grips, magwell and base pads, but they don't make compatible locking plates...so no way to keep the pad on the mag.  I had a lot of $$$ tied up in that stuff for two Shadow 2's...and ultimately, Henning saved my investment.     

 

Never thought of using plus 4/5 extensions for my 10 rounders (17 round MecGar dimple restricted to 10 rounds).  But as you have found, no one appears to be selling totally compatible grips, magwells and extensions. 

 

I did read on here somewhere that Henning is coming out with a magwell and I'm waiting for that since I really like his base pads...and he provided the locking plates I needed when no one else could.  Seems like he's got it all together.

 

Soon, there will be a $hit storm of stuff to buy for LO...just hang in there a while longer.

[OPENB]

I emailed him and he said he is working on it. Same for Taylor Freelance. May shoot it without a magwell for a while, cocked and locked.

[slavex]

I run the Springer Precision magwell, don't need short grips, but I do need to use Tanfo base pads from Henning as his CZ pads aren't compatible with the magwell. I too am in a 10 round country so no extra capacity or anything. 

[AdamP]

I can tell you CZ Customs mag well #10397 does not work with oem mag plates or Taran Tactical extensions. Anyone have any suggestions for the TT base plates?

 

[VeilAndrew]

Patriot Defense told me they will be releasing a magwell later this year for the CZs. Their magwell cut grips are supposed to be on their site later this week, and will be compatible with the factory mag well (a la Czechmate and other TS series guns), and their grips will (ofc) be compatible with their own magwell.

 

I'll be getting some magwell cut short grips from PD and patiently waiting for their magwell.

[Andy9]

I found that with the magwells from LOK Grips, my Henning and Taran Tactical extended base pads work fine. 

[MuayThaiJJ]

There were some on eBay from CZUSA, they work fine. Get the large frame one

[sx2gl35]

On 4/13/2023 at 1:33 PM, Andy9 said:

I found that with the magwells from LOK Grips, my Henning and Taran Tactical extended base pads work fine. 

Hi Andy, At a match this weekend I tried a buddy's TTI extended base pad mag in my LOK magwell equipped Shadow 2, and it fit.  Got home and tried the Henning Pro base pad mag again, still about 3/32" short of seating.

 

Did you make any mods to get the Hennings to work?

 

Extended mag release looks great; how does it work for you?

 

What trigger is that?

[Andy9]

The trigger is from the CZ parts web site, but i don't recall who makes it. I know it is out there and available. 

the Henning base pads are a couple of years old, so i don't know if the design has changed at all. For me, the hennings fit the easiest and even have a little wiggle room. 

[sx2gl35]

Thanks Andy, the Henning Extended base pads do fit the LOK mag well and the Pro's do not...reading comp not my best subject.  Thinking about one of those LOK extended mag releases but need a recommendation from someone who uses one.

[Darqusoull13]

The CZ brand magwell works pretty well. Reloads are fast and you can get colors to make your S2 a S2-Parrot if you're into that like me. I did need to mod it for some basepads but it took less than 5 minutes with a Dremel. 

I also had to modify my standard VZ grips. Short grips are obviously required but I had the VZ's and I like them more than any short grip currently available. 

Shockbottle Basepads + 17 round MecGar - Worked out of the box, looked dope

TTI Basepads + 18 round CZ mags (140 mm) - Worked out of the box, mag body extends well below magwell
 

TTI Basepads + 17 round CZ mags (140 mm) - Modifed magwell at the rear (pin side) to allow ~ 1 mm more clearance. Drops free and works with minor modification of magwell. 

Edited April 18, 2023 by Darqusoull13
Added Grip Mod

[VeilAndrew]

Are there any magwells that will work without modification to the grip panels' length? One that looks like it might is the Springer Precision magwell.

[OPENB]

1 hour ago, VeilAndrew said:

Are there any magwells that will work without modification to the grip panels' length? One that looks like it might is the Springer Precision magwell.

Springer is the only one I am aware of. They show 2 versions, one IDPA, the other open/limited USPSA style. If you have grips you really like, it may be the best option. No one has said what extended basepads are compatible with it though.

Edited April 18, 2023 by OPENB