Pmatte1 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Getting started reloading for my 2011 9mm. Tired of shooting case after case of blazer brass 124s. have plenty of reloading time just not much with 9mm or with running light loads for mess around shooting local stuff. Looking for some steel shooting loads / just light paper loads to shoot quick. was thinking 124gr autocomp powder since I have it. if another powder is better def open to suggestions. grain/OAL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rnlinebacker Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Autocomp is good, not too fast or slow. Follow the website recommendations to come up with a load you like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pmatte1 Posted January 8, 2023 Author Share Posted January 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Rnlinebacker said: Autocomp is good, not too fast or slow. Follow the website recommendations to come up with a load you like The 4.3 start point from their load data is definitely high it’s producing a PF above factory loads and I know guys go way lighter. Was just looking for some recs of what’s worked for guys for that somewhat specific task Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrayfk05 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Autocomp is too slow for soft shooting loads, I'd suggest something like Bullseye/W231/#2/N320/Titegroup/sport pistol and than somewhere between 3.5 and 4.0 grains depending on powder/bullet. (Check the reloading data for the powder you are going to use) Around 4.0 these powder will start making 125PF with 124 grain bullets to give some reference. Slow(er) powder burn poorly when loading minimum loads and can get pretty dirty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pmatte1 Posted January 8, 2023 Author Share Posted January 8, 2023 9 hours ago, xrayfk05 said: Autocomp is too slow for soft shooting loads, I'd suggest something like Bullseye/W231/#2/N320/Titegroup/sport pistol and than somewhere between 3.5 and 4.0 grains depending on powder/bullet. (Check the reloading data for the powder you are going to use) Around 4.0 these powder will start making 125PF with 124 grain bullets to give some reference. Slow(er) powder burn poorly when loading minimum loads and can get pretty dirty. Ah really thank you, I thought slow would be better. I definitely believe but just out of curiosity what about the slow powder makes it run poor when combined with the min load? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrayfk05 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 In general powders burn poorly a low pressures, they get inconsistent and/or dirty. Also a faster powder has less felt recoil compared to slower powders and faster powders allow for slower velocities with again less recoil. I usually run 3.2 grains Lovex D032/Clean shot behind a 147 grain coated bullet, for steel plates I just change the bullet to a 124 version and voila a soft shooting load. (n.b. this is below starting load) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzt Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 Aliant e3 powder is superb for light steel loads. You can make minor PF if you like, but not necessary for steel. Aliant Sport Pistol or N320 is the slowest powder I would use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posvar Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 N320 is extremely clean, shoots very soft, and meters well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomstick303 Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 45 minutes ago, Posvar said: N320 is extremely clean, shoots very soft, and meters well. My favorite powder by far, but stupid expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrayfk05 Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 15 minutes ago, Boomstick303 said: My favorite powder by far, but stupid expensive. True, since you get 1500 to 2000 rounds out of a can (500grams) it hardly matters how expensive it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posvar Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 I agree. I never keep less than 16 pounds on my shelf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OptimiStick Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Same. I stock up when there's a hazmat free weekend or I find some at a decent price local. N320 It is expensive powder - but as Posvar said, it meters really well, it's soft, and clean. In the overall cost of this hobby, it's not a needle mover imho. Looking at Powder Valley, 1lb of AutoComp @ $30.50, and N320 at $45.25.... And if you assume 4 grains per load (just an average, I realize there's some variance in the powder/grains to make power) that's 1750 rds per lb. $0.0174 (AC) vs $0.0259 (n320) per round. If you shoot 10k rounds a year the premium for n320 over AC would be $84.29 (not incl. tax). If you went even cheaper with everyone's favorite hot-burning black dirt - TiteGroup, @ $25.50 per LB - @ 10k rounds the premium for n320 over TG is $112.86 (not incl. tax) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzt Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 2 hours ago, Boomstick303 said: My favorite powder by far, but stupid expensive. Aliant Sport Pistol is an exact match, for less money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomstick303 Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 5 minutes ago, zzt said: Aliant Sport Pistol is an exact match, for less money. Not in all aspects, but yea I like it a lot as well. Sport Pistol leaves a little more residue in my guns, but not enough to quibble over. Smells different too once burnt. I can use either and be just as happy with them. It is considerably cheaper. I use Sport Pistol for coated and N320 for any FMJ, and JHP ammo. Problem is I have not seen Sport Pistol in forever. Rumor is that is being sucked up by Federal for their Syntech line. Makes sense, very little smoke when using that powder with coated bullets. Luckily I have 24 pounds of Sport Pistol, and around 14 pounds of N320. I have a decent amount of powder and bullets so Primers are priority now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveac1 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 On 1/10/2023 at 5:50 PM, zzt said: Aliant Sport Pistol is an exact match, for less money. Love Sport Pistol. Used for both 40 Major and 9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Lately the prices on the domestics are what the euros were. But the euros are going up too. About a month ago I swear they were jumping 3-5 bucks a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerman Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 I run Clays with 124 BBI bullets for a nice soft minor load. It's listed on the Hodgdon website if you want to check it out. I run it at max. This is in a MPA 2011. Clays is very clean compared to the titegroup I was using. Plus I use it in 12 gauge, 45 acp, and revolver loads. I just wish I could use it for 40. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
looking4reloadingdeals Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 I just tried some BBI 124TC with 3.8gr sport pistol at around 1.120ish that got about 132PF. Shot very nicely out of my Honcho with sight block barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueknight749 Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 I have two different loads: 147s on 3.4gr N320 OAL 1.12 on a Staccato gives me 128pf and it’s crazy soft! 124s on 8.2gr HS6 OAL 1.17 for my 9maj Open Gun gives me 172pf. what platform are you developing for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m700 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 What 2011 are you running? Barrel length? Comped? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pmatte1 Posted February 2, 2023 Author Share Posted February 2, 2023 On 1/31/2023 at 1:17 PM, m700 said: What 2011 are you running? Barrel length? Comped? A Bul radical 5.4” not comped just front sight block Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m700 Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 Ive been running a load atlas recommended for my Erubus of 5 grains of VV N350 under a 125 BB and its been running well in all my comped guns. For my uncomped Ive been running 3.6 grains of AA2 under the same bullets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomstick303 Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 3 hours ago, m700 said: my Erubus of 5 grains of VV N350 under a 125 BB What is the PF of this load? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posvar Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 Just now, Boomstick303 said: What is the PF of this load? 5g is alot of N320. HOT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posvar Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 But just realized it is comped. My MPX when I had it liked a hot load too and I was at like 4.7g N320 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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