ysrracer Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 Registration is open !! https://practiscore.com/2020-ruger-hogue-icore-arizona-state-championship-at-phoenix-rod-gun-club-clone/register Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ysrracer Posted August 17, 2021 Author Share Posted August 17, 2021 Match starts: October 16, 2021 @ 8:00 AM · Match ends: October 16, 2021 @ 5:00 PM Location: Phoenix Rod and Gun Club, Phoenix, AZ. 915 West Olney Drive Phoenix, Arizona 85041 PRGC is a Cold Range with Safe Areas. The 2021 Ruger/Hogue ICORE Arizona State Championship will be held at the Phoenix Rod and Gun club on October 16th, 2021. Membership in ICORE is not required, but otherwise it’s under the ICORE rulebook http://icore.org/rulebook.phtml Award money is only available to ICORE members Recognized Divisions: Open, Limited, Limited 6, Classic This will be a heads up, per division, match. The match will begin promptly @ 8:00 am with a shooters meeting. There will be 8 stages with approx 230 rds. Lunch will be served immediately following the match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ysrracer Posted August 22, 2021 Author Share Posted August 22, 2021 A few people have asked me why I'm on squad seven. Is it the morning sun, no. Is it the afternoon wind, no. Is it because I finish closest to where they're serving lunch? Maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pskys2 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 21 hours ago, ysrracer said: A few people have asked me why I'm on squad seven. Is it the morning sun, no. Is it the afternoon wind, no. Is it because I finish closest to where they're serving lunch? Maybe Now that's a man who plans ahead! I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ysrracer Posted September 16, 2021 Author Share Posted September 16, 2021 Still time to register Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matteekay Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 Is this the one that's now a "club match"? Quote I am writing as a courtesy to let our members know that the match advertised this year on the ICORE website and Practiscore registration page as the "2021 ICORE Arizona State Championship" has been removed from the ICORE 2021 Events calendar. We learned yesterday from the SW Region Rep that the Match Director is now designating this a "club level" match and will not fulfill the requirements for ICORE-supported matches above the club level. Any match above "club level" that is supported by ICORE is subject to the ICORE Rule Book and the ICORE Policy document, which includes the review of stages by the Rules Director and Chairman. (Even the Practiscore registration page for this match says "Membership in ICORE is not required, but otherwise it's under the ICORE Rule Book icore.org/rulebook.phtml".) As requested last year, a 2021 Arizona State Championship (October 16, 2021) was approved as an official ICORE match, equivalent to the Regional Championships, for which Division and Special Recognition Category award money would be provided for the winners under the same criteria as for the hosting of Regional Championships. The match is scheduled for October 16. Unfortunately the match will not be supported by ICORE. We wish everyone safe travels and a safe match. Should still be a lot of fun for everyone going. I wonder what changed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ysrracer Posted September 25, 2021 Author Share Posted September 25, 2021 15 minutes ago, matteekay said: Is this the one that's now a "club match"? Should still be a lot of fun for everyone going. I wonder what changed? Yeah, I got the same email. I'm still going, it's still going to be fun. No idea what changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatJones Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 I believe it's ICORE's reaction to the match not awarding all of the different participation trophies as required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyScuba Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 Politics. What was the exact reason anyway? I see something about submitting stages but give me a break, it’s ICORE not an IPSC L3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ysrracer Posted September 25, 2021 Author Share Posted September 25, 2021 At this point, what difference does it make? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revoman Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 Boys and girls it is all about the rules in ICORE rule book. Plain and simple no more no less. If I had the time I would go sounds like fun. But to complain about it because they did not follow the rules sounds like. Well I will leave it at that. ✌ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
testosterone Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 13 hours ago, ysrracer said: Yeah, I got the same email. I'm still going, it's still going to be fun. No idea what changed. Seems to be the case based on the wording. Its a shame that icore and revolver shooters are so at odds. icore is hanging on by a thread and uspsa is def on a path to killing the division. This stuff is a niche of a niche, its a shame that its not a bit more ammicable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varminter22 Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 The ICORE rules in question seem reasonable. I cannot imagine why the club thought otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
testosterone Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, varminter22 said: The ICORE rules in question seem reasonable. I cannot imagine why the club thought otherwise. Its just about the simplest rulebook in shooting. It sucks that there is any controversy around it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ysrracer Posted September 25, 2021 Author Share Posted September 25, 2021 27 minutes ago, varminter22 said: The ICORE rules in question seem reasonable. I cannot imagine why the club thought otherwise. Which rule is in question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varminter22 Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 8 minutes ago, ysrracer said: Which rule is in question? See the ICORE email. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ysrracer Posted September 25, 2021 Author Share Posted September 25, 2021 58 minutes ago, varminter22 said: See the ICORE email. I did, it's not very clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete627 Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 (edited) "Award money is only available to ICORE members" ... What money?? Looks like $120 per head?? (is everyone getting a box of primers??) ... Must have missed the "info" flyer somewhere .. will go back and look ... Edit: Never mind ... I found the $575 of ICORE money in section 7.3 of their "Policies and Procedures" ... (but of course that doesn't apply now since it is just a club match ... I guess). ($100 ea for each of the 4 Divisions and $25 ea for each of the 7 Special Recognition Categories). I wonder if their stage review stamps out triple taps?!?? Edited September 25, 2021 by pete627 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revoman Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 For those who want to know look under Policy and Procedures for ICORE. ✌ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ysrracer Posted September 25, 2021 Author Share Posted September 25, 2021 Policies... Procedures... Blah, blah, blah. I be rappin', I be cappin', I be double tappin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revoman Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 1 hour ago, ysrracer said: Policies... Procedures... Blah, blah, blah. I be rappin', I be cappin', I be double tappin' I guess I should have addressed my suggestion to the adults in the forum. ✌ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Phil Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 11 minutes ago, revoman said: I guess I should have addressed my suggestion to the adults in the forum. ✌ i think the adult section is somewhere else. I can't seem to find it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pskys2 Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 8 hours ago, testosterone said: Seems to be the case based on the wording. Its a shame that icore and revolver shooters are so at odds. icore is hanging on by a thread and uspsa is def on a path to killing the division. This stuff is a niche of a niche, its a shame that its not a bit more ammicable. Check out the latest Front Sight nice write up on 2021 Free State Revolver crew, if I do say so myself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matteekay Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 11 hours ago, revoman said: Boys and girls it is all about the rules in ICORE rule book. Plain and simple no more no less. If I had the time I would go sounds like fun. But to complain about it because they did not follow the rules sounds like. Well I will leave it at that. ✌ Not sure anyone was complaining, but it is unfortunate that they couldn't work it out given that ICORE is pretty much dying (even when compared to USPSA revo). 10 hours ago, testosterone said: Its just about the simplest rulebook in shooting. It sucks that there is any controversy around it... This is great in theory. In practice, as I learned at my ICORE RO class, the rulebook is so thin because they'll literally tell you to look at the USPSA rulebook for anything that's not covered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishbreath Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 11 hours ago, testosterone said: uspsa is def on a path to killing the division. I will argue against it unto my dying breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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