Sarge Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 5 minutes ago, CalTeacher said: I see no rulings in that link, only a set of magazines that I don’t subscribe to. I provided the link to NROI rulings from USPSA. I’ve still seen zero documentation that you can start with one foot in and one foot out of the starting position stipulates “standing in box.” Why would “behind” mean fully uprange and within the confines of the edge of a table while “standing in box” means standing with one foot out of the box? Did you talk to Troy? Ask him your questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennisw1mac Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 1 hour ago, CalTeacher said: I’ve still seen zero documentation that you can start with one foot in and one foot out of the starting position stipulates “standing in box.” Why would “behind” mean fully uprange and within the confines of the edge of a table while “standing in box” means standing with one foot out of the box? It doesn't mean that. You are right; don't let these guys make you crazy. They live to drive DNROI nuts. The "on the grass" example is dumb. "On" and "in" are two completely different prepositions with clearly different meanings. I've been over all the rulings, and there's nothing there that contradicts the clear meaning of "in the box." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHAVEGAS Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, CalTeacher said: I see no rulings in that link, only a set of magazines that I don’t subscribe to. I provided the link to NROI rulings from USPSA. Your choice. There is a great deal of rules related information on questions like the topic at hand directly from the USPSA NROI director that you are deciding not to be aware of. I'm not sure what triggers a formal ruling versus just an answer with explanation, I suspect it is when Troy or his predecessor saw something as particularly important or widespread or not already covered, but that is just a guess. Edited November 28, 2018 by IHAVEGAS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaylanGivens Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 6 hours ago, Sarge said: Did you talk to Troy? Ask him your questions. I don't think anyone wants to ask Troy if one foot outside of the box qualifies you as inside the box. That's ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, RaylanGivens said: I don't think anyone wants to ask Troy if one foot outside of the box qualifies you as inside the box. That's ridiculous. Well, he says one foot in is out of the box... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaylanGivens Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Just now, Sarge said: Well, he says one foot in is out of the box... I've never heard him say that... and I've never read that it is acceptable. If you have a reference, post it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 The last time we talked in and out was almost 3 years ago. I don't recall any actual rulings being identified there either. Enjoy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motosapiens Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 that thread made me lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHAVEGAS Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Sarge said: Well, he says one foot in is out of the box... 2 hours ago, RaylanGivens said: I've never heard him say that... and I've never read that it is acceptable. If you have a reference, post it. https://uspsa.org/magazine/display//2016-05 Page 6. 1 foot in is out in regard to fault lines which I assume would be what you have if the box defines a shooting area. Whether 1 foot out is in if the box defines a start position, I dunno. Edited November 28, 2018 by IHAVEGAS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAFO Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 22 hours ago, motosapiens said: that thread made me lol. It gave me a headache. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bighpmaa Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 10.2.1. "Until the competitor establishs a presence in new shooting area with at least one foot on the ground inside the new shooting area." This line defines presence in an area is determined by one foot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKorn Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 35 minutes ago, Bighpmaa said: 10.2.1. "Until the competitor establishs a presence in new shooting area with at least one foot on the ground inside the new shooting area." This line defines presence in an area is determined by one foot. No, that line determines that presence in an area for the purposes of that rule is defined by one foot. 10.2.1 says nothing about starting positions, hence the confusion/disagreement that arises in threads like this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broadside72 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 If I knock on your door, you open it and I stick one foot on the threshold or just to your side of it, am I in your house or am I not? :stirpot: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhgtyre Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 1 hour ago, broadside72 said: If I knock on your door, you open it and I stick one foot on the threshold or just to your side of it, am I in your house or am I not? :stirpot: Not once the ambulance comes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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