Tampa-XD45 Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 8 minutes ago, Snausages32 said: Just to add to the pile... I use Talon Grips, and love them. In 2 years, they haven't shifted a millimeter. Like many said, be sure you clean the crap out of the application area with alcohol wipes. The Talon Grip instructions said to set in place, use a hairdryer to heat it up, and then make sure it is where you want it. If done right, it won't shift. Same here. I've used Talons in Florida since they first came out and never had a problem with the grip shifting or peeling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B_RAD Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 1 hour ago, tact said: My grip is fine and I have a pretty good understanding what constitutes a good grip. Since you have such a powerful grip tape destroying death grip you might not need to produce friction with texture applied over the entire grip or frame. If you do perhaps the carbide is your solution or go to town on that frame with a wood burner tip. The tape or skateboard tape that I use is basically for flat surfaces and won’t mold into what isn’t. So knowing that, I just simply apply it where it’ll be most effective on the areas it’ll be most effective. Everyone is different. For me, the most effective part to managing recoil is the part you left blank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tact Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 Everyone is different. For me, the most effective part to managing recoil is the part you left blank. Cool, well good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9x45 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 B_RAD, your hands must sweat acetone.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B_RAD Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 1 hour ago, 9x45 said: B_RAD, your hands must sweat acetone.... Ha ha. It's not from sweat. Wasn't trying to sound rude, macho or whatever in previous post but it's from gripping hard! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9x45 Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 B, then don't do that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B_RAD Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 It helps you shoot better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tact Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 Some would argue it doesn’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadyscott999 Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 15 minutes ago, tact said: Some would argue it doesn’t. "some" would be wrong. Grip it like it owes you money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B_RAD Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 (edited) 32 minutes ago, tact said: Some would argue it doesn’t. Yeah, for just plain ole plinking, bullseye, time doesn't matter, I wouldn't say you need to grip all that hard. When I was a kid my I was taught to basically just hold the gun, just barely, and just focus on front sight while increasing pressure on the trigger until you get that surprise break. For USPSA I want to crush with my support hand as hard as I can. This minimizes recoil and minimizes the effects of a poor trigger pull at speed. 'cause....I'm gonna be slapping it as fast as I can sometimes. Hopefully straight back! Edited August 1, 2018 by B_RAD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mont1120 Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 12 hours ago, 9x45 said: B_RAD, your hands must sweat acetone.... It might be possible that sweat or something on your hands is the cause of the tape coming loose. Glue is an acidic compound, so strong salt or alkali sweat content could very well break down the glue in your tape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polymerfeelsweirdman Posted August 1, 2018 Author Share Posted August 1, 2018 My grip this time destroyed the right side but last one was the left. Have done all this prep people have mentioned including the heat to both the tape and the frame. The only thing I haven't tried is the extra glue. Another thought I had was trying to get a tape that goes around the whole frame because it seems the problem is the tape slides under hard grip pressure then once it slides it will never be right again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fbzero Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 Proper prep is key to making them last longer - longer being the key word. Alcohol to clean, let dry, and then heat and pressure for application. Still, I've come to start thinking of these as consumable items...they work for a bit, then when you're shooting on some 100 degree day, they start to come off. The guns that get used the most, they last the least amount of time. On the occasional blasters, they last for years. My Glock 17 is finally starting to peel after about 5-6 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul49 Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 You guys are going around in circles. Give it up. Try a rubber grip sleeve. It provides friction to your hand on the outside and to the gun on the inside. If or when it moves, you just reposition it. My two cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B_RAD Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 17 hours ago, tact said: Some would argue it doesn’t. This is why I want to grip hard! 12 out of 15 shots on the popper at 45 yds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polymerfeelsweirdman Posted August 2, 2018 Author Share Posted August 2, 2018 16 hours ago, fbzero said: Proper prep is key to making them last longer - longer being the key word. Alcohol to clean, let dry, and then heat and pressure for application. Still, I've come to start thinking of these as consumable items...they work for a bit, then when you're shooting on some 100 degree day, they start to come off. The guns that get used the most, they last the least amount of time. On the occasional blasters, they last for years. My Glock 17 is finally starting to peel after about 5-6 years I consider them consumable items but this last grip tape with the tedious prep to place it didn't even make 1000 rounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fbzero Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 11 hours ago, polymerfeelsweirdman said: I consider them consumable items but this last grip tape with the tedious prep to place it didn't even make 1000 rounds Yeah, that's pretty crappy. I've never noticed any relation to the number of rounds I get out of them as much as to the weather. Long matches on really hot days seems to be what kills them the fastest to me. The ones I've had that lasted the longest(aside from the Talons on my G17 that wasn't used as much as some of my others) have been Traction Grips. They're actually cheaper too, so that's a bonus. Only found them because when I was looking for some for my X-Calibur, they were the only ones I could find that had them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul49 Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 (edited) Just unsubscribed from the Talon email flyers. Too much email clutter. Bought one set with the rubber nubs not the sandpaper style and now it's covered by my Hogue grip sleeve. Needed the extra thickness to optimize my grip. Living in California I have to settle for Gen 3 with no blackstrap adjustability. Edited August 3, 2018 by Paul49 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tact Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 This is why I want to grip hard! 12 out of 15 shots on the popper at 45 yds. Well with a red dot and missing three at 45, I’d say you might want to revisit your grip philosophy or fix your trigger press. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B_RAD Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 (edited) 24 minutes ago, tact said: Well with a red dot and missing three at 45, I’d say you might want to revisit your grip philosophy or fix your trigger press. Absolutely missed the ones I did because of trigger pull. Thanks for the input! Edited August 3, 2018 by B_RAD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tact Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 Absolutely missed the ones I did because of trigger pull. Thanks for the input! Dude, I’m just messing with you. Good shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B_RAD Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 22 minutes ago, tact said: Dude, I’m just messaging with you. Good shooting. I just thought you might be special. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweetToof Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 I say why not stipple? PROS: Extreme grip (better than sand paper IMO, depends on the tip shape when stippling) Grip surface won't degrade with use (even if talons, etc. stay in place, the sand paper rubs smooth in all the needed places) Consistency over time (new sandpaper will be much more aggressive than your old one when you replace it, possibly irritating your hands) grip in all the right places (support side thumb, on top of finger grooves or where grooves used to be if you dremel them off) doesn't snag jersey material like sand paper does Free/cheap (Likely you already own a soldering iron. 5$ amazon works just fine) pressure/heat proof (grip it as hard as you want, aint going no where) CONS: Possible diminished value (who cares about resale value, you're gonna beat the gun up shooting tens of thousands of rounds anyway if you're competing) You might mess up (practice on some glock factory mag loaders) Look (take your time, make it clean or pay someone to do it professionally. Personally I think partially rubbed off sandpaper looks way worse. Plus who cares, FUNCTION over FORM. Its a competitive gun) Time (takes a good 3 hours to do right) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
safarihunter Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 After reading this full thread, I guess I am just lucky. Haven't had the problem with any of the tapes I have tried. Probably because I'm only shooting less than 1000 rds per month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Elliott Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Surface prep with acetone or brake cleaner (non chlorinated) heat the grip and the tape, run a bead of super glue gel along the underside of the edge of the tape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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