zen_grasshopper Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 125gr RN Blue Bullet 3.7gr Titegroup 1.110” OAL CCI primer It is dirty but goes bang and hits what I aim at. On 7/27/2018 at 10:44 AM, wtturn said: BBI 125gr 3.9gr Sport Pistol 1.120 OAL @wtturn Is the Sport Pistol pretty clean? What about smoke? I still have 16+ pounds of Titegroup, but it is some filthy stuff and may try a different powder in the future. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashis5 Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 125 gr tc blue bullets accurate #5 cci primer blazer 124 rn for factory stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliYeti Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 On 8/5/2018 at 6:33 AM, zen_grasshopper said: 125gr RN Blue Bullet 3.7gr Titegroup 1.110” OAL CCI primer It is dirty but goes bang and hits what I aim at. @wtturn Is the Sport Pistol pretty clean? What about smoke? I still have 16+ pounds of Titegroup, but it is some filthy stuff and may try a different powder in the future. Thanks. Sport Pistol is very very clean. After a match it barely has any residue around the muzzle and I just need to do a quick whipe down. I switched to it from N320 and it feels just as good and is as clean or cleaner than it. It is a great powder for 9mm through the shadow 2. 3.7 gr makes 130 power factor with 124 Acme's for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtturn Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 125gr RN Blue Bullet 3.7gr Titegroup 1.110” OAL CCI primer It is dirty but goes bang and hits what I aim at. [mention=51619]wtturn[/mention] Is the Sport Pistol pretty clean? What about smoke? I still have 16+ pounds of Titegroup, but it is some filthy stuff and may try a different powder in the future. Thanks.Yes, it's noticably less smoky than TG.Sent from my ONEPLUS A6003 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sliv2 Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Shot around 400 rounds of 150g Syntech at Area 5 this past weekend. Had no issues. But, I did notice scuffs in the coating near the base of the shoulder where the bullets met the rifling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliYeti Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Sliv2 said: Shot around 400 rounds of 150g Syntech at Area 5 this past weekend. Had no issues. But, I did notice scuffs in the coating near the base of the shoulder where the bullets met the rifling. What powerfactor did it test at? I heard the 40 Cal Major comes out at 190. Not confirmed but it has me wondering about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen_grasshopper Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 12 hours ago, CaliYeti said: Sport Pistol is very very clean. After a match it barely has any residue around the muzzle and I just need to do a quick whipe down. I switched to it from N320 and it feels just as good and is as clean or cleaner than it. It is a great powder for 9mm through the shadow 2. 3.7 gr makes 130 power factor with 124 Acme's for me. 2 hours ago, wtturn said: Yes, it's noticably less smoky than TG. Sent from my ONEPLUS A6003 using Tapatalk Thanks for the responses. Said the heck with it and ordered 32 pounds of Sport Pistol for the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliYeti Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 1 minute ago, zen_grasshopper said: Thanks for the responses. Said the heck with it and ordered 32 pounds of Sport Pistol for the future. Wow you went all in. Good luck with it, it is a great powder and I've really liked the switch. It is becoming harder to find at some shops I use so I think it is catching on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sliv2 Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 14 hours ago, CaliYeti said: What powerfactor did it test at? I heard the 40 Cal Major comes out at 190. Not confirmed but it has me wondering about it. 135.1, according to Practiscore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeroryde Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 135 BBI TC, 3.4 gn sport pistol, Winchester primer, 1.12 oal pf 132 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwbsig Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 I'm loading acme 147 f/p 1.130 oal with 3.3 s/p very clean with good accuracy thur a shadow 2. Started playing with the acme 124 r/n and found that the .357 dia bullets is giving better Es and sd numbers with some improvement in accuracy. Trying to decide if I want to stick with the 147gr or go with the 124gr. I like the recoil of the 147 but I also like the faster cycle time of the 124. I guess I'll just keep playing with both till I figure it out lol. I been shooting 2-3 plate matches a month for the last four or five months and my shooting just keeps evolving for the better. I'm really enjoying the competitiveness of the matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdfwguy Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 My regular load is Eggleston .357 124gr and 3.6gr of Sport Pistol PD 124 JHPs are more accurate, but not enough difference to shoot them in bulk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwbsig Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 19 hours ago, wdfwguy said: My regular load is Eggleston .357 124gr and 3.6gr of Sport Pistol PD 124 JHPs are more accurate, but not enough difference to shoot them in bulk Wdfwguy is 3.6 burn clean? I've been shooting 3.8-4.0 gr range and those loads are doing well just been thinking of trying 3.6 to see how accurate they would be ,3.8 makes min. Power factor in my gun but I just like to play. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdfwguy Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 7 hours ago, Dwbsig said: Wdfwguy is 3.6 burn clean? I've been shooting 3.8-4.0 gr range and those loads are doing well just been thinking of trying 3.6 to see how accurate they would be ,3.8 makes min. Power factor in my gun but I just like to play. Lol It's 95% of what I load right now. It's clean and accurate and makes ~128pf in my Shadow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwbsig Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 On August 12, 2018 at 10:08 PM, wdfwguy said: It's 95% of what I load right now. It's clean and accurate and makes ~128pf in my Shadow. I loaded a 100 at 3.6 grs 1.11 oal and they shot nice a little less pop then my 3.8 gr load that I been shooting. Did not crono the 3.6 gr load yet but did shoot some at 12 yards on paper and the frist four or five was about a inch,when I saw how tight they was grouping I loosend up and the group opened up lol but they was showing some good accuracy. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dbw2223 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 147 sns over 3.1 of titegroup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog317 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 147 FN Blue Bullet w/ 3.3 gr of Tight Group with OAL 1.135 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wespac78 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 125gr RN Blue Bullet 3.7gr Titegroup 1.110” OAL CCI primer It is dirty but goes bang and hits what I aim at. [mention=51619]wtturn[/mention] Is the Sport Pistol pretty clean? What about smoke? I still have 16+ pounds of Titegroup, but it is some filthy stuff and may try a different powder in the future. Thanks.Titegroup is filthy because you're not loading enough gunpowder into the shell for it to build up enough pressure to expand the case to the barrel and create a pressure seal. If you load a little more powder it will become a much cleaner shooting powder. Usually with my loads 125gr Blue Bullets, around 3.9gr TG it seals up and shoots pretty clean. And PF stays right around 130. Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen_grasshopper Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 10 hours ago, wespac78 said: Titegroup is filthy because you're not loading enough gunpowder into the shell for it to build up enough pressure to expand the case to the barrel and create a pressure seal. If you load a little more powder it will become a much cleaner shooting powder. Usually with my loads 125gr Blue Bullets, around 3.9gr TG it seals up and shoots pretty clean. And PF stays right around 130. Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk Really? With 3.7 I am at 138pf, and 1080 fps with a SD of 6 or so. This seems like it would be pretty efficient, and if I up the charge I am over 140pf easy. The bore isn't what is getting dirty it is the rest of the gun. Thick carbon and sludge after 5 to 10k. I don't clean guns often, but if I can find a cleaner powder that makes my life easier that is what I want. Jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmanick Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 5 to K? I think you're going to get some sludge build up at those numbers regardless of what you use. we use Winchester 231 it burns cleaner than Titegroup, but I think after 5000 rounds my shadow would be pretty filthy too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxtrotx1 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 I use tite group for pretty low power loads. Yeah it leaves a layer of crap everywhere... but it's not that much worse than other powders and it comes off easy with a wipedown every few matches. I like not cleaning my guns bu 5-10k kinda dictates it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog317 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 3 hours ago, zen_grasshopper said: Really? With 3.7 I am at 138pf, and 1080 fps with a SD of 6 or so. This seems like it would be pretty efficient, and if I up the charge I am over 140pf easy. The bore isn't what is getting dirty it is the rest of the gun. Thick carbon and sludge after 5 to 10k. I don't clean guns often, but if I can find a cleaner powder that makes my life easier that is what I want. Jon Wow, that's a lot of rounds between cleaning, may be able to get away with it with a Glock with little oil / lube in it...CZ not so much. I use to shoot "new" Freedom 147's before I started reloading and whatever they used was very dirty, could see it all over the end of the slide and barrel after 50 rounds. Don't see it with my Blue's and tightgroup. I will do a quick wipe down and swab the barrel after each session / match ...5 to 10 min at most. I'll do a really deep clean normally after the shooting season wraps up around here in Dec or Jan. Waiting 5 to 10K, you are making the cleaning way too hard on yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wespac78 Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Really? With 3.7 I am at 138pf, and 1080 fps with a SD of 6 or so. This seems like it would be pretty efficient, and if I up the charge I am over 140pf easy. The bore isn't what is getting dirty it is the rest of the gun. Thick carbon and sludge after 5 to 10k. I don't clean guns often, but if I can find a cleaner powder that makes my life easier that is what I want. Jon I either fat finger'd or my phone auto corrected to 130. What I originally meant to type was 138 PF. From what I found with my experience with TG is the PF stays pretty constant once you get close to causing the pressure seal. With conversations I've had with wobbly and idescribe, I no longer chase that minimum PF. I prefer to have a little cleaner firing and manage the tiny bit of extra recoil with grip. Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixsixnine Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 On 7/30/2018 at 11:00 AM, m-cz-shadow-2 said: I run Acme 135 grain RN with 3.3 Gr of Alliant Sport Pistol 1.12 OAL, with remington primers. My power factor is 127,000. Feels fantastic and is is very affordable Dat power factor tho. On 8/21/2018 at 7:47 AM, zen_grasshopper said: Really? With 3.7 I am at 138pf, and 1080 fps with a SD of 6 or so. This seems like it would be pretty efficient, and if I up the charge I am over 140pf easy. The bore isn't what is getting dirty it is the rest of the gun. Thick carbon and sludge after 5 to 10k. I don't clean guns often, but if I can find a cleaner powder that makes my life easier that is what I want. Jon I can't imagine going that long without cleaning. That crud buildup would be festering in the back of my mind the entire time I'm shooting. I'll usually field strip after shooting, and at the very least blow the guts out with aerosol cleaner before putting it in the safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanb Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 I never thought I cleaned ffrequently til I saw that. Holy s#!t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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