kmanick Posted May 14, 2018 Author Share Posted May 14, 2018 I shot a "walls of steel" match this weekend and used some tuned 124 instead of 47 and found that 124 did kick a little bit more but didn't notice a huge difference. I did notice that I am better with fast follow ups (double tap) with 147 but I could go with either one and just train with it Off the shelve ammo is a different story all together though, when comparing S&B 124 vs AE 147 the difference is substantial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inkw8ll Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 Not a S2 shooter (TSO 9mm), but I use the 150gr American Eagle Syntech and prefer the softer shooting from them. I have fairly decent grip, but I'm new to the sport. I did add a DPM RRS (I've only changed the recoil spring) so the slide does come back faster and the TSO shoots awfully flat. I have the 124 gr Syntech and I'm surprised how much I can tell the difference. I now use the remainder as "practice" ammo, but it requires me to change the spring.Sent from my SM-N950U1 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmanick Posted May 18, 2018 Author Share Posted May 18, 2018 anyone use Hornady XTP 147gr bullets for their rounds? any plus/minus to these? I did a site search but most hornady searches come up with reloading "gear" My buddy just made a couple 100 rounds of these and I'm curious as whether these are considered "premium" bullet heads or not On 4/30/2018 at 3:47 PM, race1911 said: KMANICK....a reduced power firing pin spring comes with the lighter than stock mainspring (hammer spring) and is used with the extended firing pin..................a reduced power trigger return spring connects with the trigger/trigger bar to reduce the tension of the trigger return/pull and is ordered separately (does not come with any other part when ordered) On 4/30/2018 at 4:44 PM, rowdyb said: Ernie Langdon's two part video on youtube, "fear not the doulbe action shot" will get you up to speed perfectly. Secondly, grip the gun firmly enough and pull the trigger in a manner that the action of pulling/pressing the trigger doesn't disturb the sights. If you're going slow or staging or focusing on it, you're going to be unhappy with the result. So start focusing on better actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 yes, those would be considered a premium bullet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmanick Posted May 21, 2018 Author Share Posted May 21, 2018 I'm working with a buddy of mine doing some experimenting now he got in some 145 and 135 rounds this past week and we loaded them with win 231 and went from 3.2 grains up to 3.7 The 145's with 3.2 felt like .22's, if they make a PF of 130 ....that's my round. the 135's with 3.5 were also very nice. We didn't Chrono them yet , but I've gotten some rounds from JJrAmmo in CT recently and shot a couple of matches with them. he rolled me 147's that went at 890FPS with a 130 PF. I love em! if we can reproduce what he made for me ,we'll make a few thousand rounds of them. We've got a lot of the 135 bullets so we may focus on those first. 3.5-3.7gr of the 231 felt great , we need to check PF on them though. (we're using these red rounds , he calls them "lipstick rounds") Now that I'm getting used to using "tuned rounds" the stuff off the shelf feels super hot to me (I usually shoot S&B 124) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sliv2 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 I tried the Federal Syntech 150gr stuff for the first time today at a local match. It was excellent. I will be buying a case for major match ammo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twister Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Sliv2, where are you buying the Federal ammo? Thanks for your help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inkw8ll Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Sliv2, where are you buying the Federal ammo? Thanks for your help.Brownells has them in stock now, but I usually order from Outdoor Limited (best price I've seen). I'm currently sitting on 2000 rounds; I buy them when I see its available Sent from my SM-N950U1 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twister Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Inkw8ll, thanks for the info! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sliv2 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 11 hours ago, twister said: Sliv2, where are you buying the Federal ammo? Thanks for your help. I've subscribed to most major retailers that stock it, and order it as it becomes available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ssanders224 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 As has been said, It's hard to beat Precision Delta's 147 ammo for an off the shelf Production/ CO round. It was specifically designed for that purpose in mind. It makes about 130PF in a G17, and is a true jacketed bullet, and runs very clean. It runs on sale from time to time for $215/case shipped, so check frequently. https://www.precisiondelta.com/products/9mm-147gr-fmj-remanufactured-ammunition/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inkw8ll Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 The federal ammo comes in at $110 for a box of 500 depending on where you get it. And the box is the "official" round for USPSA. So you cant really beat that. As has been said, It's hard to beat Precision Delta's 147 ammo for an off the shelf Production/ CO round. It was specifically designed for that purpose in mind. It makes about 130PF in a G17, and is a true jacketed bullet, and runs very clean. It runs on sale from time to time for $215/case shipped, so check frequently. https://www.precisiondelta.com/products/9mm-147gr-fmj-remanufactured-ammunition/Sent from my SM-N950U1 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ssanders224 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 7 minutes ago, Inkw8ll said: The federal ammo comes in at $110 for a box of 500 depending on where you get it. And the box is the "official" round for USPSA. So you cant really beat that. Sent from my SM-N950U1 using Tapatalk The PD ammo can be had cheaper, is a true jacketed bullet, and was the official ammo of USPSA for a long time Everyone needs to buy what they prefer, but you cannot go wrong with PD 147s in a Production or CO gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inkw8ll Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 The PD ammo can be had cheaper, is a true jacketed bullet, and was the official ammo of USPSA for a long time [emoji6] Everyone needs to buy what they prefer, but you cannot go wrong with PD 147s in a Production or CO gun. Options are good. I do really like these coated bullets from Federal and I guess that's why I'm sharing the info. I've never had a barrel so clean after shooting these TSJsSent from my SM-N950U1 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmanick Posted May 21, 2018 Author Share Posted May 21, 2018 we're using the Acme "Lipstick" rounds now for these 145's and 135's we're loading. Very interested to see what they leave behind in my gun and my magazines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fasthenk65 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 I think if loaded to the same PF it all doesn't matter that much. 124's tend to group a bit (a bit..) tighter and 147.s 'feel' a bit softer (and slower)... All by all, just shoot them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fasthenk65 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Coated bullets do have the advantage of a bit less powder though... but powder cost a round is minimal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjl Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 I've been using Remington's UMC 147 gr bullets and they are noticeably softer shooting. They are periodically hard to find (I'm guessing Remington does intermittent runs during the year), but they are my bullet of choice these days. Even shoots well out of a S&W Shield for a BUG match Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmanick Posted May 22, 2018 Author Share Posted May 22, 2018 (edited) On 5/17/2018 at 10:17 PM, rowdyb said: yes, those would be considered a premium bullet and they lock up the slide on my S2 40 rounds fired 5 jams where I couldn't even get the slide to move What a shame as the ones that did fire were nice and soft and accurate as all get out. Luckily my M&P 9L is not being as finicky Edited May 23, 2018 by kmanick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wespac78 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Guess I'm behind the curve lol. I use 125gr in my shadow 2. Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 5 hours ago, wespac78 said: Guess I'm behind the curve lol. I use 125gr in my shadow 2. Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk i actually think you're in the majority. most people i know in real life shoot a 124/5 out of their shadow 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 29 minutes ago, rowdyb said: i actually think you're in the majority. most people i know in real life shoot a 124/5 out of their shadow 2 Or tanfoglio. I strongly preferred the way 125s felt in mine. How the sights track and how flat the gun is? That matter way more than how soft it “feels.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmaples71 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 (edited) Highly recommend giving some 135s a whirl. I like the balance between snappiness or 125s and slow push of 147s. Edited May 26, 2018 by jmaples71 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmanick Posted May 26, 2018 Author Share Posted May 26, 2018 (edited) ^ this , we made 1000 rounds of Acme 135 with 3.6gr of winchester 231 cam in at at PF of 133 and shot a steel challenge today. very nice, no issues , soft kick and spot on. I hosed my first 2 stages but the last 3 I did pretty well. Edited May 27, 2018 by kmanick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sdlrodeo Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 Interesting to read about the 135s. Seems like they would be the ‘perfect balance’ of speedier slide speed and lower felt recoil. ive been running Xtreme 147 plated HP for practice/club matches and 147 Zero JHPs for major matches. They are the closest in accuracy and I don’t have to change a thing on my 650. Plated save me a penny or two per. 3K practice so far and about 800 match rounds down range with zero issues. I will say with the same powder charge the plated barely make minor PF while the JHPs come in right at 128-229. Yeah, I too like to live dangerously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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