Hi-Power Jack Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 42 minutes ago, Stickman301 said: The 3N38 is a little softerbut a PITA to load. I hear you, loud and clear. That's why I switched from HS6 to WAC - no more full cases which are a PITA to load Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaylanGivens Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 17 hours ago, Stickman301 said: I have shot both of these with a 124 JHP. The 3N38 is a little softer and flatter but a pain in the ass to load. AA#7 is closer to HS6 when running a 124 bullet. 9.9gr AA7.....124gr PD JHP.....1.180".....WSP 8.9gr 3N38....124gr PD JHP....1.190".....WSP.....compressed load Tried in 2 different guns: 5" KKM barrel with 3 holes 4.5" SV Hybrid barrel with 2 holes Hope this helps. 1.190 is really long for 9mm... Have you had any trouble with bullets separating from the cases? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stickman301 Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 4 hours ago, RaylanGivens said: 1.190 is really long for 9mm... Have you had any trouble with bullets separating from the cases? I didn't have any issues but I only loaded about 200-300 of those rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Have you successfully fired those 200-300 rounds ? I backed off 1.175" because the bullets were falling out of the cases as they were being fired - not enough grip on the bullet (115 gr MG JHP). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer-x Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Your longest OAL that stays together depends on the bullet chosen. No experience with PD's and 9 major though. With MG JHP's, these OAL's work for me - no bullets have worked out of case on their own over years of loading many, many rounds. 1.185 - 124 MG JHP 1.165 - 115 MG JHP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 1 hour ago, racer-x said: With MG JHP's, these OAL's work for me 1.165 - 115 MG JHP I had to back the 115 MG JHP down to 1.165" or so, also. Still loading the 124 gr's at same length - looks like I might be able to make them a bit longer - thanks for info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kozy Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Gunna give AA7 another try with a 124gn JHP but I still like HS6 over a 124 the best..Ill let you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bwilmot Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 I’ve found in my commander length gun wit 2 port comp and no holes that 9.7 AA7 115 @ 1.16 = 168 pf 9.3 aa7 124 @1.16 = 168pf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stickman301 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 On March 21, 2018 at 6:53 AM, Hi-Power Jack said: Have you successfully fired those 200-300 rounds ? I backed off 1.175" because the bullets were falling out of the cases as they were being fired - not enough grip on the bullet (115 gr MG JHP). Never had any issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 11 hours ago, Stickman301 said: Never had any issues. Are you resizing with an undersized die ? I wasn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stickman301 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 7 minutes ago, Hi-Power Jack said: Are you resizing with an undersized die ? I wasn't No I didn't. Didn't have any issues. Used all Dillon dies that came on the 1050. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanm Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 On 2/25/2018 at 9:24 PM, Darthrader18 said: How is smoking with the coated bullets? The smoking for me is only a big deal if shooting indoors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 13 hours ago, alanm said: The smoking for me is only a big deal if shooting indoors. I've had trouble with "smoking" in the humid summers of VA or FL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanm Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 11 hours ago, Hi-Power Jack said: I've had trouble with "smoking" in the humid summers of VA or FL. Hmmm...haven’t tried them in the humid summer yet. I mostly shoot jacketed bullets but sometimes I cheapen it up a bit. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanfoglio1911 Posted April 11, 2018 Author Share Posted April 11, 2018 9.5 Grains of AA7 and 124FMJ. Lighter and softer than my previous load of HS6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigboy69 Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 I love AA7 in my 38 super. I love Win540 which is now HS6 for my steel loads. Win540/HS6 at a 6.0g charge under a 125grain Blue bullet at 1200fps is clean as hell. 10.3g of AA7 under a 125g blue bullet for 38 super is also very clean. I have a bunch loaded with WAC for 9 major to see the difference but may have to use AA7 for 9 major. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanfoglio1911 Posted June 6, 2018 Author Share Posted June 6, 2018 38SC with AA7 Load http://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/5b17e7211bc58/VID_62100828_045015_424.mp4Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highhope Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 On 4/11/2018 at 12:49 PM, tanfoglio1911 said: 9.5 Grains of AA7 and 124FMJ. Lighter and softer than my previous load of HS6 Thought FMJ is not good for open because of the exposed lead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanfoglio1911 Posted August 19, 2018 Author Share Posted August 19, 2018 10 minutes ago, highhope said: Thought FMJ is not good for open because of the exposed lead. I have no issues using FMJ. it's just dirty after the match, but that is not an issues since I clean my gun very often. I am now using RMR HP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highhope Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 1 minute ago, tanfoglio1911 said: I have no issues using FMJ. it's just dirty after the match, but that is not an issues since I clean my gun very often. I am now using RMR HP. yeah, I mean maybe not very healthy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRPOperator Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 I run WAC, as the feel was better to me, butt thats just personal preference. The load I was using for AA 7 was 9.6 grns 124 PD jhp at 1.165 made about 170 Pf out of Akai V6 9mm. Produced a lot of gas but did have be more careful loading due to case capacity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OPENB Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 When I started shooting in the mid 90's, I remember open guys saying to avoid AA7 because it was abrasive, it wore out barrels too quickly, etc. Is this no longer the case? They only other powder that comes close in how much you can get in the case for a 170PF seems to be the unobtainable Vectan SP2. Guys that are using AA7 long term, are you noticing any loss of accuracy indicating a prematurely worn out barrel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer-x Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OPENB Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Well I bought a pound to give it a try. And, I found a thousand Federal Small Pistol primers while I was there, so win-win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer-x Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 For 9 major, I'm at 10.7 grains AA#7 under a MG 115 JHP @ 1.165 OAL with CCI SPP. This load is around 1500fps and works the comp & popple holes great (full size CK Thunder Open). 115's are where its at for me. More powder, more gas & flatter shooting gun. BTW, 10.7 grains sounds like a lot in a 9 case, but it is no trouble loading at all. A full to the top 9MM case holds 13.8 grains of AA#7 compared to only 10.2 grains 3N38. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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