JGus Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 I have a Dillon 650 and load 9mm and .40s&w. But i wondered if anyone has chrono'ed any factory .45acp that has a low pf (~170 or so) but still meets min 165 pf? I don't shoot single stack enough to want to spend time loading for it, and don't want to have to buy a dozen or more factory ammo brands to chrono. So thought i'd draw on the collective experience of the group. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shooterDrew Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 I believe federal has a new .45 load for Uspsa that is in the 170pf area ETA: I checked and can’t find it. Must not have been released yet. It’s coming tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGus Posted December 17, 2017 Author Share Posted December 17, 2017 I'll keep on the lookout for it. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distant Thunder Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 You could check with Atlanta Arms and Ammo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aandabooks Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Federal redbox doesn't even get to PF. Comes in around 150PF. It is the stuff they sell with the SPP. I haven't chronoed any other brands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGus Posted December 17, 2017 Author Share Posted December 17, 2017 I know Atlanta Arms has ammo for USPSA, but was hoping for something i could grab at the local Scheels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGus Posted December 17, 2017 Author Share Posted December 17, 2017 19 minutes ago, aandabooks said: Federal redbox doesn't even get to PF. Comes in around 150PF. It is the stuff they sell with the SPP. I haven't chronoed any other brands. Matt, sounds interesting but i'd need something to meet major min pf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aandabooks Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, JGus said: Matt, sounds interesting but i'd need something to meet major min pf. Just letting you know so you don't spend money on it just to find that out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGus Posted December 17, 2017 Author Share Posted December 17, 2017 44 minutes ago, aandabooks said: Just letting you know so you don't spend money on it just to find that out. Appreciate the info Matt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matteekay Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Freedom claims that their standard 230gr goes around 830 (190 PF), their Hush line goes 790 (181 PF), and their ProMatch goes 765 (175 PF). I've only tried the standard stuff and found it to be totally acceptable in a stock RIA .45. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGus Posted December 18, 2017 Author Share Posted December 18, 2017 5 hours ago, matteekay said: Freedom claims that their standard 230gr goes around 830 (190 PF), their Hush line goes 790 (181 PF), and their ProMatch goes 765 (175 PF). I've only tried the standard stuff and found it to be totally acceptable in a stock RIA .45. I didn't realize Freedom had a ProMatch line for competition? I'll have to check it out. I'm guessing there isn't any factory .45 ammo that isn't competition specific that will have a 170-180 power factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 wilson combat ammo was the best for this out of the two 1911's i shot stuff through. most stuff listed as "power factor competition ammo" was still coming in hot at like 190pf. atlanta arms, precision delta, american eagle and another i can't remember. only the wilson stuff i chronoed and then decided to use for match ammo actually came in close to 170, 172pf in my guns. http://shopwilsoncombat.com/45-ACP-Remanufactured-200-gr-Hornady-HAP-850-FPS-5-Barrel-400-Bulk/productinfo/RA45-200-HAP/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGus Posted December 18, 2017 Author Share Posted December 18, 2017 15 minutes ago, rowdyb said: wilson combat ammo was the best for this out of the two 1911's i shot stuff through. most stuff listed as "power factor competition ammo" was still coming in hot at like 190pf. atlanta arms, precision delta, american eagle and another i can't remember. only the wilson stuff i chronoed and then decided to use for match ammo actually came in close to 170, 172pf in my guns. http://shopwilsoncombat.com/45-ACP-Remanufactured-200-gr-Hornady-HAP-850-FPS-5-Barrel-400-Bulk/productinfo/RA45-200-HAP/ Wow! Surprised the "competition" ammo of some of the manufacturers is coming in around 190 pf. Good info to know. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RePete Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 A few years ago I chrono'd factory 45ACP ammo. Here are the results. Federal American Eagle - Velocity - 866.6fps = 199000PF Winchester White Box - Velocity - 853.0fps = 196000PF Remington UMC - Velocity - 852.2fps = 193000PF CCI Blazer Brass - Velocity - 742.5fps = 170798PF Tula - Velocity - 761.0fps = 175030PF The Federal, Winchester and Remington were fine to shoot. The Tula was OK. The CCI Blazer Brass had the severest recoil of all These were all fired from an STI Trojan. 10 round data. The Fed, Win and Rem were fired on the same day. Hope this helps and YMMV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOF Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 On 12/16/2017 at 9:44 PM, Distant Thunder said: You could check with Atlanta Arms and Ammo. Their 185 grain JHP Elite might be something to consider. I recently tested it in two Colt and one Ruger 1911 and it was the most accurate in all three, and the softest recoiling factory .45 ACP among the loads I tested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGus Posted December 18, 2017 Author Share Posted December 18, 2017 8 hours ago, RePete said: A few years ago I chrono'd factory 45ACP ammo. Here are the results. Federal American Eagle - Velocity - 866.6fps = 199000PF Winchester White Box - Velocity - 853.0fps = 196000PF Remington UMC - Velocity - 852.2fps = 193000PF CCI Blazer Brass - Velocity - 742.5fps = 170798PF Tula - Velocity - 761.0fps = 175030PF The Federal, Winchester and Remington were fine to shoot. The Tula was OK. The CCI Blazer Brass had the severest recoil of all These were all fired from an STI Trojan. 10 round data. The Fed, Win and Rem were fired on the same day. Hope this helps and YMMV. Great info!! Very helpful. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGus Posted December 18, 2017 Author Share Posted December 18, 2017 5 hours ago, GOF said: Their 185 grain JHP Elite might be something to consider. I recently tested it in two Colt and one Ruger 1911 and it was the most accurate in all three, and the softest recoiling factory .45 ACP among the loads I tested. Did you happen to chrono the ammo? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOF Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 No I did not. But I'm betting it's over 900 fps, and about a 170 PF. That's pretty standard for non +p 185 loads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPL15 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Steel cased ammo tends to be loaded a bit light. The ones I’ve actually spent / wasted time chrono-ing came out to “around” 750FPS for 230gr Ball, albeit pretty inconsistently so between brands (high / irregular StDev). Wouldn’t recommend using it heavily in a nice barrel, as it’s usually bi-metal jacketed (zinc or copper plated steel alloy jacket). Getting zinc fouling out of a barrel is not easy w/o abrasives , as it tends to stick very well to Steel, & none of the common bore solvents attack it. Also, the Steel case has a higher friction coefficient vs Brass (even w/ the polymer coating), which can cause issues w/ nose diving / feeding / timing. I’m sure you already know this, but if you already reload for 9 & 40, you probably already have powder that’s compatible w/ 45. Considering the falling / stabilizing price of ammo these days, reloading 45 is your biggest bang for the buck in savings compared to 9 or 40, especially if you’re trying to find specialty “match” grade 45. When I owned a 650 w/ none of the auto-feeders, could crank thru a box of 500 bullets in about 1.5 - 2 hours for a savings of around $100, which is more than I make a per hour at work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45 Raven Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Try Aguila 230 gr. FMJ ball ammo. I get 750 to 760 FPS from it with good accuracy from three different 5" 1911 pistols. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncrivello Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 Has anyone chrono'd the federal 220gr syntech stuff? Like the OP, I'm not set up for loading 45 and factory American Eagle through my trophy match seems to be 'up there' in pf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RePete Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 (edited) The last time I chrono'd AE 230gr was in April 2011 and the PF was 199318 and previously in 2008 it just over 181. Edited June 10, 2019 by RePete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickAument Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 Winchester white box has a 185 FMJFP that'll just make 165 - 168 PF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RePete Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 Here are the PF's for the factory ammo I chrono'd in 2011. All 230gr FMJ. Fed 199 WWB 196 Rem UMC 193 Blazer Brass 174 The Blazer Brass had the hardest recoil because, I believe, they use a very fast burning powder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncrivello Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 I’ll have to loook for some of those 185 Winchester’s. 199pf from the AE stuff is just nutty. Very interesting that the blazer stuff has a harsher recoil. Will keep that in mind when I get around to loading for the 45. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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