nowayjose57 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Anyone experience or know of anyone who had a primer detonation, on any Dillon and as well as what may have caused it? I have a 650 thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Do a search with the words "primer detonation" and quite a few threads come up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dillon Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 The commonest causes on the XL650 are: Trying to seat primers into crimped primer pockets Trying to seat large primers into small primer pockets, usually 45ACP. If the primer seater has backed out of the bottom of the platform, then as the primer disc rotates, primers will roll onto their side. Attempting to seat it can sometimes set it off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanMan1961 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 56 minutes ago, dillon said: The commonest causes on the XL650 are: Trying to seat primers into crimped primer pockets Trying to seat large primers into small primer pockets, usually 45ACP. If the primer seater has backed out of the bottom of the platform, then as the primer disc rotates, primers will roll onto their side. Attempting to seat it can sometimes set it off. the only primer I've set off in ~30k rounds reloaded on my XL650 was with a 9mm brass with a crimped primer pocket. It went in canted and then went off as I completed my push stroke. Developing a good feel for the push stroke to seat the primer is definitely a must. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlmiller1 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 In 100k on various dillons, I blew 1 on my 650. My fault absolutely. Primer wouldnt seat, left hand reached up to rotate brass possibly allowing it to seat but my right hand just slammed handle down. Boom. Felt it on my left fingers but otherwise nothing. Still dont know why I did that but havent done it again in maybe 45k or so since. Plan to NOT do it again. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkreutz Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 2 hours ago, mlmiller1 said: In 100k on various dillons, I blew 1 on my 650. My fault absolutely. Primer wouldnt seat, left hand reached up to rotate brass possibly allowing it to seat but my right hand just slammed handle down. Boom. Felt it on my left fingers but otherwise nothing. Still dont know why I did that but havent done it again in maybe 45k or so since. Plan to NOT do it again. lol From your description, it sounds like it was a 550, not a 650 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mully383 Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Had my first primer go off. Small primer .45 case got into a very large batch that was thought to be well sorted. I also learned that there is a large and small primer seater. I've only loaded small till this .45 so it was news to me. I think that had a contribution to why they seater was able to set it off so easily. I'm usually quick to stop when there's extra force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbitNutz Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 It's not unheard of on a 650, that's for sure. I have a 650 and when I called Dillon about ordering some dies we started to shoot the chit...the guy told me they get two to three calls a week about blowing the primers out the top of the tube. I have ordered more than a few things since then and each time I ask about primers blowing up...all the sales guys tell the same story...and it happens for all the reasons listed above and a few more. No one gets hurt but the it makes a mess.,,,and Dillon never even winces about sending out the new parts , pronto. Quite a company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlmiller1 Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 13 hours ago, Bkreutz said: From your description, it sounds like it was a 550, not a 650 Nope was my 650. started pressing primer, it didnt go, held pressure, reached up to turn brass & suddenly my arm decided to slam lever down. ???? Was stupid & entirely my fault. oh well, thats why we wear safety glasses.... just in case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NicVerAZ Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 (edited) Only had it once happen to me, on the 550 before I upgraded to the 650. This because the priming arm had a worn out cup. Dillon exchanged it for a brand new one (thanks, Looch!). I ... just... upgraded to the 650. No tale to tell yet. By the way, it just reminded me of when cap guns were popular and perfectly fine to offer to your kids. Smelled and sounded just the same. Edited November 23, 2016 by NicVerAZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyler2you Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 (edited) Three times on a 1050 for me. All a result of trying to cram a primer into a pocket with the remnants of an old primer still in there (Center got punched out leaving a ring). I've since learned to feel when that happens and pull the offending cartridge out of the shell plate (at the swage station). Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk Edited November 24, 2016 by tyler2you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPGMD Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 I just had one a couple of weeks ago. I was using crappy range pick up brass, lots of it with the DRT head stamp. Which when I prepped the brass constantly had sticking primers. Well now it was being difficult to prime. I was also at an overseas match using someone else's 650, and Federal primers where as at home I use CCI. Toward the end of my thousand round loading session, I was getting tried and frustrated and I just slammed the handle forward. The pop was quite loud in the trailer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 i had one early on. blew plastic follower into the ceiling of my garage in a curly-q pigtail shape. primer magazine tube was bulged. plastic locator tab in pieces. i had guesses back then about how it might of happened but now with more experience i'm sure i was wrong. so now i can't say for sure how i think it happened but i know that it did, and it was probably my fault. (which i didn't want to accept or believe when it happened) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phlier Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 16 hours ago, mlmiller1 said: Nope was my 650. started pressing primer, it didnt go, held pressure, reached up to turn brass & suddenly my arm decided to slam lever down. ???? Was stupid & entirely my fault. oh well, thats why we wear safety glasses.... just in case. I think the part in bold is what's causing the confusion... reached up to turn brass in a 650? Was your auto shell plate advance not working? I haven't popped a primer while reloading since 1984. Knock on wood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDGoose Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 I think the part in bold is what's causing the confusion... reached up to turn brass in a 650? Was your auto shell plate advance not working? I haven't popped a primer while reloading since 1984. Knock on wood.I think he means that was literally trying to rotate the one piece of brass being primed, not indexing the shell plate. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDGoose Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 I think he means that was literally trying to rotate the one piece of brass being primed, not indexing the shell plate. Sent from my iPad using TapatalkSometimes an off center primer pocket can cause difficulty seating a primer, rotating the case 90 degrees can make seating easier.Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACree Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Friend of mine nearly lost an eye due to a piece of the primer pocket striking his eyeball when it detonated during reloading. I wear safety glasses now 100% of the time. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlmiller1 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Yes rotate single piece of brass, not shellplate. Always wear safety glasses. You never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quirk Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 A primed brass made it into my case feeder and detonated when I deprimed it on my 1050. 1st and only in about 100k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodell Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 I popped a tube of about 30 primers, totally my fault for forcing it. Spectacular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anm2_man Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Most of these primer detonations are due to Forcing the primer. If it feels like it doesn't want to go in there, DON'T DO IT ! I have had my XL650 now for 10 years and a 550b before that for 18yrs and have never had one of those detonations ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livin_cincy Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 15 hours ago, anm2_man said: Most of these primer detonations are due to Forcing the primer. If it feels like it doesn't want to go in there, DON'T DO IT ! So no hammers or pulleys either ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidnal Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 I've had 3. 2 were on a 650 and I was cranking on the lever too hard with crimped primer pockets. The other was today on my 1050. A primer didn't decap. When it tried to seat a primer on the spent cap about 30 primers blew. Wow, that was loud! I use an auto drive and didn't feel it bind. I was glad to have on eyes and ears! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Donald Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 I had a friend that had a part time reloading business. I dropped a tube of primers into his 1050, and the last primer sat cocked at the top of the primer tube on the machine. He touched it with his finger and a static charge hit the primer setting it and the rest of the tube off. Blew off a chunk of his right index finger, middle finger, and a anvil went in his eye. He lost that eye. I won't touch my press or handle primers without safety glasses on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 1 hour ago, The Donald said: the last primer sat cocked at the top of the primer tube. He touched it with his finger and a static charge hit the primer setting it and the rest of the tube off. I've had the last primer sit cocked, also - never thought of "static" setting it off. Thanks for the post - I'll watch out for that from now on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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