yellowthunder Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 I'm sizing my once fired 38SC brass and have noticed that compared to 9mm, it seems like there is a lot more sizing going on with my 38 SC. I'm using Hornady dies with the titanium nitride sizer. Has anyone noticed that their SC brass feels like it's being worked harder than they would expect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dansedgli Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 It's more resistance than 9mm in mine too but it's doing more work. Longer straight walled case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 I have the same dies. I size and deprime separately. It takes lots of force. The chamber on my STI is quite generous. I'm sure that doesn't help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ming the Merciless Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Are you using case lube? If not try using some Royal Case Lube http://www.midwayusa.com/product/782240/sharp-shoot-r-royal-case-sizing-lube-5-oz-aerosol Or some Hornady One Shot. The Royal works and smells better, but the OneShot will do in a pinch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowthunder Posted November 2, 2015 Author Share Posted November 2, 2015 Thanks for the replies everyone. I noticed my chamber is a bit generous itself, but on the same barrel my friends 9mm major chamber seems pretty tight. I may start using case lube, I try to get pistol dies that don't require it though. I use one shot on all my rifle stuff and I have a carbide set of 9mm dies that don't need it. I'll see if it makes a difference in how the sizing on 38SC feels though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bamboo Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Using a little lube makes all the difference. Easier on the brass, easier on the machine, easier on you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzShooter Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 One shot is the perfect lube even if you are using carbine dies. Makes it much easier to pull the handle and it will no harm your primers. I don't even bother wiping it off and have had great luck with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Miles Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Using a little lube makes all the difference. Easier on the brass, easier on the machine, easier on you. +1! One Shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hvsmith Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Run through a Case Pro 100 & Hornady One Shot & it's smooth as butter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowthunder Posted November 2, 2015 Author Share Posted November 2, 2015 I'd never heard of the case pro 100 until now. Roll sizing looks pretty slick. Agreed about one shot, I've actually never used anything else and I don't have a reason to switch. I'll give it a try and see how much of a difference it makes for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glk21C Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 You can use a push through system on a single stage press for 38sc to completely resize the case. Much cheaper than a casepro. I'll have to look at mine to see what die is in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ofishl1 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Hornady 1 Shot, I throw a pile on a square cookie pan and flatten em out, then a few sprays...let dry...or in a plastic bag roll around ...throw on cookie sheet... let dry 5 minutes.....awesome . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glk21C Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Here us the die I use with the top removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowthunder Posted November 4, 2015 Author Share Posted November 4, 2015 I knew the Lee FCD resized also. I use it for crimping, but haven't used tried using the sizing portion by itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadyscott999 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 case lube cuts the sizing effort by probably 50%. You will also spill less powder and your whole operation will be smoother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gm iprod Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Case lube is the key for sizing anything, steel or carbide dies. Anything that has a good amount of movement required to get it back to close to original shape (Major 38Cal) will need it for sure. Make sure you never use Hornday Liquid One Shot in the pump spray. It is dog turd. Roll sizing is much better than push through sizing as it sizes from the base of the case upwards. This actually puts brass back closer to original factory specification. Push through works well enough but roll sizing works 10 times better. But, at a cost. Dillon, One Shot Aerosol are the best, never tried the Royal Brand. Can't get it here in any event and maybe never will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowthunder Posted November 5, 2015 Author Share Posted November 5, 2015 Yeah, 38SC is my first true straight case that I've been loading for. Everything else pistol wise has been primarily 9mm, and that was all minor. I didn't realize how much of a difference resizing a straight case would be, but it does make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Para super Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Dies do make a big difference. I have used Lee and Hornady. Now I use a Dillon set with no lube. Much easier than 9mm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnettcw1 Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 One shot is great on 45 and 38sc, recently tried Royal Case Lube, it is even better. Makes loading 45 more like unlubed 9mm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ano Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 hornady sizeing dies for 38 super is definetly not my favorite, it sizes to much imho, working the brass more than needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 hornady sizeing dies for 38 super is definetly not my favorite, it sizes to much imho, working the brass more than needed. Which do you prefer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robb315 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 (edited) Hornady sizing die is all I have ever used for 38sc. Haven't experienced any ill effects and have reloaded the same brass many times. I do give the brass a squirt of One Shot before loading too. Edited November 10, 2015 by robb315 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ano Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 hornady sizeing dies for 38 super is definetly not my favorite, it sizes to much imho, working the brass more than needed. Which do you prefer? Lee, and dillon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowthunder Posted November 10, 2015 Author Share Posted November 10, 2015 The quick spray of one shot made all the difference in the hornady sizing die. In the future I might get a dillon set of dies when I get around to picking up a 650. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 hornady sizeing dies for 38 super is definetly not my favorite, it sizes to much imho, working the brass more than needed. I just ordered the LEE sizing die. The Hornady sized to .382" and the LEE .384". My unfired brass is .392". I'll see how this goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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