Solscud007 Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Check this out. I haven't seen this technique before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximis228 Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 That is a lot smoother than I thought it would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solscud007 Posted June 9, 2015 Author Share Posted June 9, 2015 I helped him film this. He did dremel a little bit of his 870. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corey Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 That was WAY smoother than I expected to see when I read the title. Interesting idea for those who run side saddles either in competitions or just on a tactical shotgun. Seems like it requires a bit more dexterity than "normal" twins loading from a belt. Would take some practice Im sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpyderMan2k4 Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 It does require a little more practice, but not as much as you might think. After about two weeks after I came up with it I was beating a 4.5 second par time (not every time, but on the flawless runs). It won't beat a quad load from a twins rig, but it's the best I can do from a side saddle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T Bacus Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Excellent job at taking a competition technique and adapting it to a defensive use. I'm impressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmiller Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Great job, and I thought the side saddle was dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Nice work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euxx Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Look great, indeed. Though I wonder how good that side saddle will hold the shells on recoil. Especially facing down... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 I have an old 500 with a saddle somewhere in my safe. I'll have to try this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpyderMan2k4 Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Look great, indeed. Though I wonder how good that side saddle will hold the shells on recoil. Especially facing down...Through over a thousand rounds of buckshot and slugs I've literally never had a round fall out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euxx Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Through over a thousand rounds of buckshot and slugs I've literally never had a round fall out.That may depend on specific side saddle, as I am regularly observing an exact opposite of your experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpyderMan2k4 Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Through over a thousand rounds of buckshot and slugs I've literally never had a round fall out.That may depend on specific side saddle, as I am regularly observing an exact opposite of your experience.Oh I agree it'll be 100% dependent on what side saddle is used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Therealkoop Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Not bad actually. I thought he was going to have a straight up twin loading system mounted on his shotgun, which I have seen already a couple times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Not bad actually. I thought he was going to have a straight up twin loading system mounted on his shotgun, which I have seen already a couple times. We have seen several of those. A few SWAT officers are using them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonytheTiger Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 That's pretty impressive. Although fine motor skills and dexterity under pressure/time constraints is exactly why I've moved on from old school weak hand loading... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmiller Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 I have a side saddle I bought from Wilson combat with the plastic clips. Mine doesn't seem to have as much clearance as the one in the video. What brand are you using? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpyderMan2k4 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 I have a side saddle I bought from Wilson combat with the plastic clips. Mine doesn't seem to have as much clearance as the one in the video. What brand are you using?Prototype of the Aridus Industries (my company) Q-DC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmiller Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Ok, looked it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike cyrwus Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 (edited) please dont take this as a criticism, I think its awesome technique and great thinking outside of the box, but the only strong hand loading in a tactical situation that Ill be doing is loading my hand with a pistol. and I feel stupid actually saying "tactical", but you guys who matter know what i mean. Edited June 10, 2015 by mike cyrwus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpyderMan2k4 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 I don't take it as a criticism (and I too hate the word tactical). But if you are loading, you can't be shooting, do what difference does it make which hand is doing it (assuming the strong hand load isn't slower.) If it is the same speed or faster, what's the difference? (There's no hostility in there, I'm genuinely curious to hear your take) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike cyrwus Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 strong hand on the gun gives you the ability to fire, assuming at least one still in the chamber. if the chamber is empty and you need to return fire, a pistol transition is the faster way to "reload". I know this is totally the wrong forum for this, so I think we shouldnt let this side bar get too far. When a shotgun reload can or should be performed vs a transition is very much up for discussion, always has been and prob always will. Thats why cops stick to weak hand feeding of pumps for the most part. Training is everything and I know that with sufficient training anything can be rendered moot. Spyder, if you want to delve into some of the nuances of the soon-to-be-lost art of defensive shotgunning, grab John Farnams defensive long gun book, and maybe one of suarez'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOOM Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Very Cool demonstration ; I've never had much trust using a side saddle with the rounds pointing up. They seem to start slipping down during recoil. Pointing down they hag up on the brass. The Dummy rounds your using do not look weighted, but Thank You for your video, and thinking out side the box. Again Very Impressive to watch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solscud007 Posted June 14, 2015 Author Share Posted June 14, 2015 Very Cool demonstration ; I've never had much trust using a side saddle with the rounds pointing up. They seem to start slipping down during recoil. Pointing down they hag up on the brass. The Dummy rounds your using do not look weighted, but Thank You for your video, and thinking out side the box. Again Very Impressive to watch Adam has been testing his Remington with over 1,000 rounds of just buckshot. No idea how much bird shot he has fired. Not once has he experienced shells walking from recoil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpyderMan2k4 Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Very Cool demonstration ; I've never had much trust using a side saddle with the rounds pointing up. They seem to start slipping down during recoil. Pointing down they hag up on the brass. The Dummy rounds your using do not look weighted, but Thank You for your video, and thinking out side the box. Again Very Impressive to watch Adam has been testing his Remington with over 1,000 rounds of just buckshot. No idea how much bird shot he has fired. Not once has he experienced shells walking from recoil.This. To clarify, in alpha testing for the Remington Q-DC I've got over 550 rounds of birdshot/slugs, and over 750 for the Mossberg. For testing I don't even shoot birdshot anymore. In all those rounds there has never been a single round shift from recoil, let alone fall out (and I've been watching closely).I understand concern about brass down.. I've been seeing it a lot in response to tactical twins. It seems clear that many other shell carriers will drop rounds brass down. The Q-DC has a totally different retention system. No rubber tubes or gaskets, no flexible plastic, no elastic. It uses stainless steel springs that give consistent and reliable retention regardless of temperature, recoil, dirt, sand, dust, snow, or any other variable I've encountered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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