jman93 Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Get a .40. I've ran mine for around 2 years without a single malfunction and I only clean it about once every 3 or 4 matches. It just runs. What model? I have a STI Trojan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cherryriver Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Self-loading handguns come in .45ACP caliber. Well, that's my world. I have heard of .38 Super, and maybe there's a couple of those here, too, but... Having said that, my Significant Other made a bit of a name for herself toting around a couple of Canyon Creek Custom .40 cal single-stacks, and her original gun changed my crusty old mind about custom guns vis-a-vis reliability.Even in the recalcitrant caliber of .40 S&W, for which the platform wasn't designed, it pretty much never stops running. I can't even remember the last stoppage that wasn't bad ammunition.After years of running/officiating many, many USPSA and IDPA matches and watching all sorts of finicky racer-boy specials choking and snagging, it came as quite a surprise to see nothing but sustained, accurate fire out of a tricked-out gun. (And it is tricked-out.) So here comes the Single Stack Minor wave. The SO isn't built like a middle linebacker. The .40 hardly pushes her around but well, the smallbore can be shot faster, after all. And besides, Jessie shoots .38 Super. So she had Mr. Dettelhouser take her old 9x19 IDPA gun, rebarrel it to .38 Super, and away she went.9x19 is even less ideal in the JMB design but .38 Super really is. Any old magazine works (settled on McCormicks, though) and the gun has simply never stopped running since the conversion. Not once, in many thousands of rounds. It runs so slick and happy with the long cartridge it's almost uncanny- observers watching the gun run even remark on its smoothness. So having two more rounds aboard... starting to sound even to this old curmudgeon as if the concept might have merit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dansedgli Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 I want to get a 1911 in 40. Is the trojan the only choice? Can I expect to buy mags and use it in competition straight away without issues? I don't think any of the local gunsmiths would have experience sorting out any problems related to the caliber. Until last year only the police used it. We can't use 40 in standard divison/limited yet but in classic it is ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheers623 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Dan Wesson, Sig and Para make 1911s in .40 as well. Springfield used to but seems to have stopped except by special order from the Custom Shop. STI has probably built more of them than anyone else, and as of their latest Trojan production models seems to have figured out a very reliable design. If you intend to only shoot .40 loaded to SAAMI specs any of the above would probably be fine. If you think you might load longer length ammo to use in a future Limited Division 2011 pistol, the Trojan is probably your best bet. Depending on your magazine selection, the Trojan seems to have the best reputation for reliability. I really like mine. Cheers623 DVC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunBugBit Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 I'm a newbie, shoot .45 and intend to for quite a while. Open to switching to another caliber, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointerman1967 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 I had a .40 STI Trojan that I run in L10 (would need to pull the magwell to run in SS). I had to send it back to STI after I first bought it since it would not feed at all. They quickly installed a new barrel and sent it back to me. Worked like a champ after that. I have since had a bull barrel fit to it. I can switch between bushing and bull in a minute if I want to shoot SS. I am using Wilson 10 round .45 mags. I have tuned the mag lips to retain the .40 reliably and the mags work perfectly with .40 and still function for .45 as well (which I can use in my STI Trojan .45 if I choose). While I would love to be running a double stack like the Edge; California makes purchasing such a pistol virtually useless unless I am willing to break the law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointerman1967 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Dawson sells them. Most of what I've read indicates 10mm mags are the way to go so you can load a little long. Yes, the Tripp 10mm mags work well, but the .45 Wilson will also work if you pinch the mag lips a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointerman1967 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 One more arguement for buy .45 mags and tuning them; using .40 in a .45 10 round mag allows you to fit an extra round. While you won't be loading that extra round the space makes for much softer mag inserts. It's as though you are downloading a 10 round mag and helps reduce the potential of a botched mag change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewtac Posted May 19, 2015 Author Share Posted May 19, 2015 I'll try at least one. Might be shooting minor, keep me from a barney mag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amish_rabbi Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Dan Wesson, Sig and Para make 1911s in .40 as well. Springfield used to but seems to have stopped except by special order from the Custom Shop. STI has probably built more of them than anyone else, and as of their latest Trojan production models seems to have figured out a very reliable design. I dont see a .40 on the dan wesson site... If I missed it please point it out since I'll buy one immediatly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcc7x7 Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Don't know of Dan Wesson making a factory 40 But I sold a Pm-9 to a friend a couple of years ago and he sent it to DW and they built him a factory top end for 40 He's happy as can be with it I own all three and shoot the 40 90% of the time Some matches are set up with lots of different options on how to shoot the COF and that where 10 rounds is a help with the speed you can make up by shooting the stage a little more ingenuously. With that said I shoot 200gr bullets out of my 40 and 45 and my splits on the timer are the same, May not be a big deal Tim Herron does well with a 45 so its mostly personal 40 brass can be had at most ranges for free, don't often see 45 in the brass bucket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OPENB Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 The DW 40 was called the SSC. Don't think they are currently produced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spencerattix Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 On the advice of my friends I started USPSA this year. They were all shooting SS so I decided to do the same. I had no idea what to buy so I listened to them. Long story short I got an STI Trojan in .40 and bought Tripp 9 rd cobra mags. I have put 1000+ rounds through it this spring and it's run great. The lone exception was Saturday at Indiana SS/Prod but that was a mudfest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2MoreChains Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 On the advice of my friends I started USPSA this year. They were all shooting SS so I decided to do the same. I had no idea what to buy so I listened to them. Long story short I got an STI Trojan in .40 and bought Tripp 9 rd cobra mags. I have put 1000+ rounds through it this spring and it's run great. The lone exception was Saturday at Indiana SS/Prod but that was a mudfest. I think you made a good choice. The Trojan ought to serve you well. Welcome to the forum and the sport BTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishsticks Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 The DW 40 was called the SSC. Don't think they are currently produced. Looking around on their website it appears it was a custom shop offering back in 2009. Looks like one recently sold on Gunbroker, so there must be a few floating around in the used market. http://cz-usa.com/press-release/dan-wesson-ss-custom/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spencerattix Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 On the advice of my friends I started USPSA this year. They were all shooting SS so I decided to do the same. I had no idea what to buy so I listened to them. Long story short I got an STI Trojan in .40 and bought Tripp 9 rd cobra mags. I have put 1000+ rounds through it this spring and it's run great. The lone exception was Saturday at Indiana SS/Prod but that was a mudfest. I think you made a good choice. The Trojan ought to serve you well. Welcome to the forum and the sport BTW. Thank you very much. I've had a great time. My equipment has performed well and I'm sure that makes a big difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signcutter Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Dan Wesson also made a PM-40 prior to the SSC. Probably just as rare though. I've only seen two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EkuJustice Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Would you be reloading or using factory ammo? If your shooting factory ammo, I would go 9mm for sure as the 40s usually like the ammo reloaded a little longer. As for mags, since it appears you are not in the states are you able to get Tripp mags as for 40 caliber, the Tripp "Corey" mags are the mag to use. In 9mm there are a couple different options that work well. I would rank them Dawson, Tripp, Wilson for 10 rounds and for 9 rounds the "springfield mag" which is what comes with the STI as a factory mag. As for major or minor it all depends on the stage. If it is ALL 8 round arrays major may be a benefit unless its very steel friendly then you have 2 extra shots in minor and steel scores the same. I know people will say its fastest to shoot 1 for 1 but you can push it a little harder especially on an 8 round steel array if you know the extras are there if you need it and 1 miss isn't throwing you to a slide lock reload and 2 is a standing reload. Also if you run into stages that are not 8 round arrays, 10 helps. The big on is the 4-6-4-6-4-6 arrays where its 4 from one position, then 6, then 4 etc. if your shooting 10 rounds your much better off than shooting 8 and loading constantly. Single stack nationals is a poor example for major vs minor as it is set up specific for 8 rounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spencerattix Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 One thing that I should add to my previous post. All of the 1000+ rounds I have shot this year through my Trojan has been factory ammo. 180 grain FMJ. My pistol seems to like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dansedgli Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Are you using 40 or 10mm mags? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spencerattix Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 I bought the 40 mags. A couple of the other guys I shoot with use 10mm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishsticks Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Question for those using the 10mm mags for 40, do they need any work or do they run out of the box? I have a 40 S&W 1911 on the way and trying to decide on mags. I will eventually also shoot limited with a 2011 so am interested in developing a load that works in both if possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2MoreChains Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Question for those using the 10mm mags for 40, do they need any work or do they run out of the box? I have a 40 S&W 1911 on the way and trying to decide on mags. I will eventually also shoot limited with a 2011 so am interested in developing a load that works in both if possible. I'm using the Tripp Corey 10mm mags. I don't recall needing to do anything to them, and they run my 1.180" ammo that I use for Limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheers623 Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Me and another local shooter have 3 Trojans between us and have been using Tripp 9 round 10mm mags with ammo loaded to both factory length and longer and they've run without issue. The only hang up has been when using the Tripp 10mm mags (only the follower is different) and using shorter/factory loaded ammo loaded to the full 10 round capacity. Then the first round nose dives. However, loaded longer (1.180") they run fine when loaded all the way. Hope that helps, Cheers623 DVC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishsticks Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Thanks 2MoreChains and cheers623 for your insight. Sounds like buying a Tripp 10mm is a good starting place. Off to spend more hard earned money.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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