Jody Waring Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 I see Henning is offering a brass buffer for Tanfoglio pistols. Has anyone tried or considered trying one in their CZ's ? I'm more curious for my Tactical Sport than Shadow. May not be necessary, but can't see it hurting either? I know there has been much discussion regarding the use of buffers, and for some time now CZ is even offering them (plastic) as a factory item for their product line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 A buffer shortens the stoke of the slide by ~0.1" and with my TS it lead to unreliable feeding. The CZ stroke is already 0.200" shorter than a 1911/2011 so I don't think it has enough stroke to spare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhunter Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 Funny, I just installed new sights on my Shadow today, and put the thin clear (Prague) buffer in. When I was in their shop last summer they recommended I use it. I'm gonna run it in practice and see how it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thompsoncustom Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 I run a plastic/rubber buffer in my shadow and it has never caused any isseus but when I put one in a 75b it was causing some short stroken issues and had to be trimmed to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam B Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 I run a buffer in my primary shadows and they both work fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon49erfan Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 Run a factory buffer in my TS with no problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jody Waring Posted February 28, 2015 Author Share Posted February 28, 2015 I haven't been able to get any of the clear ones from CZ to try, and funny when I purchased my TS new it never came with any. In the past I have taken a 1911 buffer, cut the ears off of it and "threaded" the recoil spring into it, put it on the guide rod and installed it in the gun. It ran flawlessly, but did get hammered up quickly. The brass definitely won't soften the blow like a plastic buffer but with it being way softer than steel it should definitely soften the impact some. I'm going to give it a try, hopefully this snow will melt soon so I can get out and try it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
himurax13 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 (edited) I have used the buffer technologies buffer for years on my CZ's without issue. Edited March 4, 2015 by himurax13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praetorian97 Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 (edited) Here is what is listed on CGWs website... Recoil Buffers NOT RECOMMENDED. Why not? Folks call and say they want to protect the frame and slide from "battering". I ask, "how many frames/slides have you personally seen that were damaged from battering"? The answer is always the same - none. And neither have I. If you use a recoil buffer, you are shortening the slides stroke, in some cases this decrease can cause a failure to fully eject a spent case, leading to a jam. Also, recoil buffers by nature, sooner or later disintegrate, and guess where those little pieces are going - into your action and lock work. So allow your CZ to take advantage if it's full stroke during the extraction/ejection cycle for maximum reliability. Give the recoil buffers to your buddy!! Edited March 5, 2015 by praetorian97 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhart123 Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 I have a Sphinx SDP compact and it has a built-in rubber buffer that is about 1/4" thick. It is the softest shooting 9mm I own and it has never had any issues with jamming of any kind. I like it so much I've ordered the subcompact version which also has the built-in buffer. Being built-in, I don't think it shortens the stroke... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 I have a Sphinx SDP compact and it has a built-in rubber buffer that is about 1/4" thick. It is the softest shooting 9mm I own and it has never had any issues with jamming of any kind. I like it so much I've ordered the subcompact version which also has the built-in buffer. Being built-in, I don't think it shortens the stroke... Why think when you can know? Do you have access to calipers? I'd love to compare dimensions with you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asimonp79 Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 I ran the buffer on TS 9 and on TS 40 and on Shadow- no issues I replaced them every 3000 rounds though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhart123 Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 I'll see if I can locate my Vernier calipers. Can you suggest a way to measure it? I can easily lock it back with a mag in with room to spare before it touches the buffer. Should I measure how far it travels after locking back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Assemble the gun without a recoil spring, pull the slide fully to the rear then measure from the front of the slide to the end of the dust cover, that should tell you the length of travel (it has a full length dust cover right?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhart123 Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 (edited) Right - a full length dust cover. I will do it tonight after work. I may have to use a machinist's rule instead of a caliper - the last time I looked for the caliper I couldn't find it. Edited March 5, 2015 by rhart123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhart123 Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 (edited) OK I did it and got 1.82 inches. I took the RS out, but left the barrel in - is that correct? Edited March 5, 2015 by rhart123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Yes, that's about the same as my CZs and Tanfos, the 2011s were a little over 2" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gcarr Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 I must be missing something here ... Can someone please explain??? My thoughts to light of a recoil spring ... The slide goes back to far and beats the frame ... And on return gets to long of a running start and breaks slide stops (note... A buffer increases spring pressure and could be used for super fine tuning )... Next thought ... To stiff of a spring creates short cycling which means feeding issues ... The answer to me is using the right recoil spring ... IE ... Tuning to the load you are shooting ... What am I missing ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerBaron Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 I run the thin factory cz buffer in my shadows but only in practice. Does it do anything for how the gun shoots? Not really. I certainly don't like it enough to risk using it in a match. I have another shadow with plenty of rounds through it with both factory guide rod and steel guide rod. It shows no ill effects from not having a buffer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Folks call and say they want to protect the frame and slide from "battering". I ask, "how many frames/slides have you personally seen that were damaged from battering"? The answer is always the same - none. And neither have I. Me either. Buffers- a solution to a non existent problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asimonp79 Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 This is how buffer on my shadow looks like after 2560 round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhart123 Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 To me a buffer is for softening muzzle flip when the slide hits the frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastlane604 Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 I have not tried shock buffers on my CZs. I did briefly try a plastic one on a 1911. All the buffer did was give me failures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhart123 Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 I tried them in my 1911 and the only issue was not locking open on last round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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