jhr1986 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 I've got a Gen4 G34 on the way which I plan to use for idpa/uspsa/steel. My current load is a 147gr bullet at ~132PF. Is this load with the stock RSA likely to cycle the gun reliably? I want to resist the temptation to start modding out a new gun (I'm pretty new to competitive shooting anyway) but I'm also not going to buy factory ammo to make it cycle properly either. Should I go ahead and get the Jager SS rod and a 15lb spring? I wouldn't want to go too low on the recoil spring and risk OOB firing, and I wasn't planning on doing a lighter weight striker spring yet (again, don't want to mod it out too much before I even shoot it). If the gun will likely cycle reliably with my loads then I'll just leave it as is for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreGarciaTAT2 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Honestly, I'd just buy the guide Rod and get that thing sprung correctly and save yourself the frustration. While you're at it though... You should check out a barrel, connector, spring kit, trigger, sights, striker, and magwell... Lol Honestly, the spring weight of the stock guide Rod was made for factory pf ammo... You're light loads might not have the juice to cycle that thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooke Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Me thinks you have spent too much time on the internet. You don't even have the gun and already you are finding fault. I'd suggest you not buy it. What evidence do you have that Glock's won't cycle with ammo in the 130's? What do you believe factory ammo is? Sincerely, get something else if you are starting out with this lack of faith in the Glock. Why invest in a product that you believe needs reinventing? None of this is true of course, but lack of confidence in your tool will not be useful for using it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noximus03 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 If you're plan is to shoot factory ammo for a while, then leave the gun as is. It will function reliably without any issues. If you want to mod something out, just change out your sights. Until you reload for competition purposes, there's no point in changing the recoil assembly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stician Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Should cycle fine with 147gr at 132pf. A couple of thousand rounds in the OE feels like 14-15lb anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterpuc Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 My Gen4 does cycle my coated 147s at 128-130PF, with the stock dual recoil spring.... They don't throw the empty cases very far. I have never had a malfunction in 3-4k rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnLTD Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 It will probably run just fine. I load to about 130-134PF and haven't had a problem in about 7k rounds. In fact, it's starting to feel really good now! Save the spring/rod money for Dawson Sights or more components!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MNshooter Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 FWIW, My stock gen4 RSA cycles 131pf 147 gr. just fine but brass doesn't travel that far. Springs are pretty cheap - try both! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1gcountry Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Mine works fine down to around 120pf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtimelarry Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Get the Jager SS Guide Rod and put an ISMI 13lb Spring on it. The gun will shoot great with everything from 125 pf to 150 pf. Vogel uses a 11 lb ISMI in his G34 and he shoots 135 pf loads. It might work with a Stock RSA but why hassle it when you can change that 1 simple piece and shoot without worrying.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalkdust21 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Get the Jager SS Guide Rod and put an ISMI 13lb Spring on it. The gun will shoot great with everything from 125 pf to 150 pf. Vogel uses a 11 lb ISMI in his G34 and he shoots 135 pf loads. I shoot a 15# spring in my G35 at major pf. I think 11# - 13# is a better choice for a G34. Additionally, if you are planning on shooting IPDA SSP you have to stick with the dual recoil spring to be legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noximus03 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Just for reference sake, my 34 was set up with a Jäger ss FLGR and had an 11# spring on it. Gun was tuned to run 3.4gr of 7625 under a 147 Rainier FP and never failed me. As a matter of fact, I shot in the 2013 Proam in Frostproof. Shot it in the iron sight match in the AM. My open gun failed in the afternoon and I pulled the 34 out of the bag and ran it instead. I didn't have any Vogel like finishes, but it never failed me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewtac Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 I went right to a steel rod and 12# spring, might have to try to stock rsa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreGarciaTAT2 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Get the Jager SS Guide Rod and put an ISMI 13lb Spring on it. The gun will shoot great with everything from 125 pf to 150 pf. Vogel uses a 11 lb ISMI in his G34 and he shoots 135 pf loads. Additionally, if you are planning on shooting IPDA SSP you have to stick with the dual recoil spring to be legal. You can run aftermarket springs in an SSP gun. Also, when I ran the soft IDPA loads in my g34 with a stock recoil spring (~128pf) I had a BUNCH of issues. When I ran factory ammo it worked perfectly fine. Changed the spring and didn't have an error in 5k rounds. Just speaking from experience. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe D Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Remember in IDPA you must have the adapter attached to the guide rod on a Gen 4 Glock. Just using an insert in the front of the slide puts you in ESP. I run a Lone Wolf rod in my G41. All the rest of our Glocks are Gen 3. I usually run a 13# ISMI. The original 11# ISMI spring design was not good. ISMI sent me a prototype to test. Maybe they have changed the design by now. A Gen 4 34 will not run a 160 gr bullet at a 130 PF reliably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBolt Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 I ran that setup for most of a year. It cycled just fine. However when I switched to a Jegaer steel rod and 13lb spring I realized how over sprung I was. Much happier with a 13lb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMANROD Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 I'm using 147 grain Xtreme bullets - PF is 128 with factory spring / Glock 34 Gen 4. I have no problems with my pistol failing to cycle...I reload my own ammo, clean my pistol once week, after 1,000 rds or so of firing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3djedi Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 It bet it will cycle fine with stock spring but the muzzle will probably dip low from the slide slamming into battery. I think most competitive shooters using that PF use a recoil spring closer to 13lbs.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbyrd01 Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 The first couple of shoots I went to with my gun running the stock spring I had several malfunctions each time. I don't know what my PF was because I'm just shooting steel but I was also only using 115gr bullets. I switched to the Jager guide rod with a 12lb spring and haven't had a single malfunction. My brass still ends up at my feet and I get comments about how it doesn't go very far, but the gun runs great. For the price, I think it's a no-brainer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddiegunks Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 I'm using 147 grain Xtreme bullets - PF is 128 with factory spring / Glock 34 Gen 4. I have no problems with my pistol failing to cycle...I reload my own ammo, clean my pistol once week, after 1,000 rds or so of firing... care to share your load data info? thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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