kamikaze1a Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 After several failed attempts to "lock" my two piece heavy gude rod into one I don't know what to try next. I tried both medium Blue and high strength Red with no joy. I cleaned the threads well, degreased thoroughly, applied a lot and a little and allowed the Locktite cure completely but it never fails to eventually start backing out. Any tips or tricks? Otherwise I think a one piece is in my future... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bountyhunter Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Silver solder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIIID Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Loctite's black max will bond the two together, it's designed to bond metal to metal. Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Solve your problem, just get a one piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dranoel Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Hammer and punch. You don't need to squash it, just put a dent in it. AFTER you thread it in tight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltdmstr Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 That's strange. I use Ed Brown 2-piece guide rods in several guns and never had one come loose. If you want to make it permanent, I would fuse the joint with a tig torch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamikaze1a Posted October 6, 2014 Author Share Posted October 6, 2014 Hammer and punch. You don't need to squash it, just put a dent in it. AFTER you thread it in tight. I like this one! I had thought about peening the threads before screwing together but this is even better. I believe heat is often used to defeat thread locker and my limited range time is a factor in the failing thread locker. I have two hours once a week to practice and go through about 4-500 rounds during that session. By the time range close time comes around, the pistol is pretty hot and probably melting the thread locker... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RePete Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Use LocTites Stud and Bearing Mount, or use JB Weld. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HI5-O Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Solve your problem, just get a one piece. Get a one piece and don't worry about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billm67 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Clean everything good and use a little epoxy like devcon or brownells bedding compound. You need an adhesive not a threadlocker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38superfan Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Usually the 2 piece rods are a little bit longer than 1 piece ones. That necessitates taking it apart to disassemble the gun. If yours is, be sure to shorten it before install. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EkuJustice Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 (edited) Red Loctite WILL work if you prep it properly with a degreaser that totally strips oil off with no residue left. Degrease it with something that will not leave a residue such as acetone and let it dry totally. Then apply the loctite and let it sit for 24 hours before using. It will lock it up just fine and is doing what it is suppose to do, be a thread locker. JB weld does a lot of stuff well but its not a thread locker. This is one of the many things where its all in the prep work as to how it turns out. I have seen several things where basically no degreasing is done or it is degreased but a residue is left and just covered in loctite not hold so the JB weld is slathered all over it and basically messing stuff up and still not work or break loose again. The red loctite withstands a lot of heat so it shouldn't be breaking loose if you can still hold the gun If that was done like mentioned above and it still broke loose try this and it WILL NOT come off. The rockset is used for muzzle attachments usually ones with suppressors attached so it handles EXTREME heat much higher than loctite. http://www.midwayusa.com/product/168884/flexbar-rocksett-high-temperature-thread-locking-compound-2-oz Edited December 3, 2014 by EkuJustice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ming the Merciless Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 Another point, Loctite requires a full 24 hours curing at above 70 degrees F. for full strength. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointblanktx Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 I would think JB Weld would do the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParaGunner Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Just get a one piece flgr. K.I.S.S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walnutty Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Teflon tape? It's always worked for me. You still need to check the connection after your shooting sessions though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamikaze1a Posted December 19, 2014 Author Share Posted December 19, 2014 I had cleaned with acetone before high strength locktite and allowed 24 hour curing but it would eventually work loose. This time I used permanent red locktite and so far, still holding. If this doesn't stay tight, a hammer and punch it is... THANKS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterthefish Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 I had cleaned with acetone before high strength locktite and allowed 24 hour curing but it would eventually work loose. This time I used permanent red locktite and so far, still holding. If this doesn't stay tight, a hammer and punch it is... THANKS! I used Loctite 272 (Red High Temp) to secure the compensator to my 9mm open gun. If prepped and cured right, it works. Regular red should be fine for a guide rod - they get hot but nothing like a barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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