Dustbuster1 Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Am running a JP setup already b, bc, and low mass buffer. Gun is working fine. Was curious if anyone is going beyond a red plug n play setup and are modifying oem rifle,carbine or aftermarket parts for lighter weight and performance??? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 of course it ate my spelling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul-the new guy Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 my understanding is the Taccom ULW buffer is the lightest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sschultz Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 I took mine apart and removed the weights and replaced it with a piece of a aluminum tube. Got it down to the same weight as a factory LM buffer. I also polished the spring and buffer tube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Schmitt Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 If you look at JP's captured buffer system you will also see that you can get a set of springs. By swapping out the springs you can find your sweet spot. Jay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustbuster1 Posted June 23, 2014 Author Share Posted June 23, 2014 I took mine apart and removed the weights and replaced it with a piece of a aluminum tube. Got it down to the same weight as a factory LM buffer. I also polished the spring and buffer tube. How did it work??? Beneficial or not worth the time? Replies appreciated I guess I should have asked is it worth tampering with? The JP parts worked really well and have helped reduce muzzle rise and recoil, significantly. I didn't want to do anything beyond the red JP LM buffer as the other unit just looks like if it fails you're done for the day or stage. Am open to suggestions or test results.. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 of course it ate my spelling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon49erfan Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Just use a carbine buffer/spring with a derlin spacer. Same weight as JP Lmos with none of the cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sschultz Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 My set up works as well as the JP parts for the price of a piece of aluminum. And like I said with the polishing I did my rifle is as smooth as a captured spring setbup. All I have into it is a little elbow grease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustbuster1 Posted June 25, 2014 Author Share Posted June 25, 2014 I took mine apart and removed the weights and replaced it with a piece of a aluminum tube. Got it down to the same weight as a factory LM buffer. I also polished the spring and buffer tube. when you used an aluminum tube, was it the same length of the weights stacked up? or did it go from the bottom of the inside of the buffer to the where the plastic insert seats?? i pulled a carbine buffer apart last night and started working with it, trying to get some ideas, thanks ( like i dont have enough to do) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustbuster1 Posted June 29, 2014 Author Share Posted June 29, 2014 (edited) Ran the ulw setup today it's a tad heavier than a carbine buffer w no weights in it. Needs more gas than the JP buffer to cycle. Will run it again on more steel and brass ammo and make a decision. It's also tossing brass and steel at 2 o'clock. Will report more later. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 of course it ate my spelling. Edited June 29, 2014 by Dustbuster1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuflehundon Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 I just took my rifle buffer apart and took out all of the weights but 1. Then I cut a delrin rod that I had laying around to fit inside the buffer to take up the rest of the space. Weighs just slightly less than the JP lo mass buffer now. Rifle runs like a champ. I am considering taking out the last weight and experimenting with it some more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
APL-G35 Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Why are you weighing both at the same time? You only put one in the rifle so it is lighter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitoR Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 APL-G35, i agree but bith of them go in the rifle, but just one reciprocates when firing, so weight should be half of what is shown in the photo above. Mine weights .6 oz. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustbuster1 Posted June 29, 2014 Author Share Posted June 29, 2014 (edited) Both are used, really needed to crank the gas up but it didn't affect muzzle rise. There's one w a small thin round pad that goes in first,and one that goes in last, they both face each other resembling Chinese finger cuffs using the spring. It's pretty quiet, I polished up the spring before I assembled it. I'm happy w it so far but will keep the JP closeby as a backup.When I first saw the setup I thought it was one piece or it came 2 in a pack till I read the directions. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 of course it ate my spelling. Edited June 29, 2014 by Dustbuster1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chills1994 Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Neat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustbuster1 Posted July 8, 2014 Author Share Posted July 8, 2014 Removed it today. W the gas cranked up was getting FTE's and jams. Put the JP back in retuned the gas problem solved. I guess I could work w buffer springs but all in all I sacrificed reliability and it cost me this past weekend... I'm going back to keeping shit simple.. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 of course it ate my spelling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaky Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 How are you guys polishing the spring and buffer tube? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sschultz Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 I made a mandrel with a piece of conduit and a long bolt .I compressed the spring on the mandrel and put it in a drill used 1000 grit emery clothe. For the tube I took a 12 ga brush and wrapped scotchbrite pad around it and chucked it in a drill. Don't get the spring hot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Miles Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 APL-G35, i agree but bith of them go in the rifle, but just one reciprocates when firing, so weight should be half of what is shown in the photo above. Mine weights .6 oz. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk +1 Only the front half reciprocates with the bolt carrier. The rear portion remains static pinned by the buffer spring. Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustbuster1 Posted July 9, 2014 Author Share Posted July 9, 2014 If you look at JP's captured buffer system you will also see that you can get a set of springs. By swapping out the springs you can find your sweet spot. Jay Is the cost worth it? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 of course it ate my spelling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtm Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 You all realise that the weights in a buffer are in there and loose for a reason right? They act as a means to keep the carrier from bouncing back. They act kind of like a dead blow hammer. So if you strip out the weights and start getting a random click Instead of bang it might be your carrier and bolt are bouncing out of battery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRUBL Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 OK Kurt.....this will be a topic of great discussion this weekend. For reference (and in advance) look up the operating systems of the Garand, Winchester model 100, Remington 7400......and one that you are familiar with....the Benelli M1 Shotgun. Of course, no beer will be involved amigo!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRUBL Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 (edited) Ran the ulw setup today it's a tad heavier than a carbine buffer w no weights in it. Needs more gas than the JP buffer to cycle. Will run it again on more steel and brass ammo and make a decision. It's also tossing brass and steel at 2 o'clock. Will report more later. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 of course it ate my spelling. Actualy.....there is only one part of the ULW recoils system that moves. So, the reciprocating mass is less than the empty buffer. Also.....this system does away with the 'tang' due to the fact that the spring is held in place at both ends.......it is much quieter....by a long shot. Historically, it has been taking less gas than even an empty buffer......I'd check on that. Edited July 9, 2014 by TRUBL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustbuster1 Posted July 9, 2014 Author Share Posted July 9, 2014 (edited) My gut tells me work w springs when using this buffer,adjust gas accordingly, or stick w JP low mass buffer Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 of course it ate my spelling. Edited July 9, 2014 by Dustbuster1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoganbillJ Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Personally I find it hard to believe you had to have more gas with the Taccom setup vs. The JP. Just goes against physics. You may make sure there isn't something else happening there. I have had great luck using the Taccom system, as have many others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustbuster1 Posted July 10, 2014 Author Share Posted July 10, 2014 Not physics. It simply wasn't cycling properly.that's why I suspect a spring change is in order. Opening the gas almost 4 turns didn't help. BTE gas block. Not saying its bad or doesn't work, it's just not running well in this rifle right now. It's just weird that it wont work.what setup are u running that allows it to work as it should?! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 of course it ate my spelling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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