barrysuperhawk Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 Hey guys, I have a prize table DPMS 308 [old style] with the factory GI trigger in it. I have decided to set this up as a combination backup rifle, so I ought to put a better trigger in it, but I don't really want to spend a ton of cash on the best of the best for *this* rifle. Anyone have a suggestion on a decent, mid-range trigger group I could put in here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.E. Kelley Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 CMC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdcguns Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 +1 on the CMC. I've been happy with mine so far. Got about 1000 rds on it, so far, so good. The first one I bought malfunctioned right out of the box. I called CMC and had a new one in my hands 2 days later, shipped the bad one back on their dime with supplied return shipping label. That second one has been great and I'm confident that they stand behind their product. Plus they are a big 3gun supporter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flatland Shooter Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 I only have experience with two aftermarket AR triggers and would not hesitate to recommend either one. My first is CMC. I've had it for several years and it has never failed me. The second is Hyperfire. Mine is the 24-C. An excellent trigger. I've only put around 1200 rd through a gun outfitted with this trigger. On the lightest setting, its flawless. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StealthyBlagga Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 Hard to beat the JP for ~$100, provided you are willing to do the work necessary to install it (not just a straight drop in). You can play with a stronger hammer spring if you shoot a lot of milsurp ammo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 CMC ! I like the flat trigger one but either are good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bagdrag Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 I've tried a lot of triggers (AR Gold, Wilson, JP, Geissele) and I think the CMC is almost as good, as good, or better than any of them at a cost of $100+ less. The value of a CMC is unbeatable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee blackman Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 CMC's are nice, I have one, but it just doesn't compare to a Hypertouch 24C... Ditch the little red trigger shoe and keep the tip of your finger at the base, its like OMG short and fast. I hear a lot of praise over factory or Benny Hill installed JP triggers, but haven't had a chance to use one. I have to say I've been pretty impressed with the Geissele 3-Gun trigger. Its not as short or light, but has a little more positive reset, which you can kinda "ride" or "float" when you finger gets used to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1911 S.I.S.sy Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 CMC. Better reset than my SDG3. Or should I say a more positive reset. Plus at half the cost you can't beat it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBOT5000 Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 I'm looking at prices and the CMC does not seem to be a value mid-range trigger. I would suggest a Rock River Arms NM two stage trigger. It is below $100 and is a nice trigger. If you want to go super cheap throw in a JP yellow spring kit in your GI trigger set and see if you like it. They are about 10 bucks and you may like the results. I also see that the Jard trigger seems to be a decent price but I have no experience with them. Browse the classifieds/gun whore section I just went to the 3 gun nation regionals in vegas and they gave away a ton of the hiperfire triggers you can probably find a few for sale at a decent price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOOM Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 Has anyone tried a Hard chrome, or Nickel boron Hammer with a standard Trigger. its got to be a smoother surface. I was thinking of trying this for a lighter trigger pull break, and quicker lock time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bagdrag Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 Has anyone tried a Hard chrome, or Nickel boron Hammer with a standard Trigger. its got to be a smoother surface. I was thinking of trying this for a lighter trigger pull break, and quicker lock time. How would a surface coating improve lock time? Also, I've tried the ALG ACT which is NiB coated and was not impressed. I can understand the heavier pull weight but the trigger itself wasn't very smooth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bagdrag Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 I'm looking at prices and the CMC does not seem to be a value mid-range trigger. I would suggest a Rock River Arms NM two stage trigger. It is below $100 and is a nice trigger. If you want to go super cheap throw in a JP yellow spring kit in your GI trigger set and see if you like it. They are about 10 bucks and you may like the results. I also see that the Jard trigger seems to be a decent price but I have no experience with them. Browse the classifieds/gun whore section I just went to the 3 gun nation regionals in vegas and they gave away a ton of the hiperfire triggers you can probably find a few for sale at a decent price. RRA NM is ok especially when you compare them to how the Geisseles are priced. But the CMC is worth the extra $50, especially if you're looking for a 3-gun use trigger for a back up gun. If you really want to just save your money, you could probably just go with a trigger like the following which is sold as part of a parts kit: They sell it without the stock kit and you may even be able to just buy the fire control. As you can see it comes with a lightened hammer which you could give a minor polish job and possibly use JP light springs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lead-Head Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 Another option is Geisselle SSA. It I 2 stage, but drops it, is great quality, and breaks like glass. Or they have an un-coated 2 stage for even less $$$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOOM Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 Building a back up trigger from parts I already have laying around might work; differently less expensive. To me any smoother surface would improve the friction between each part allowing the trigger parts to move faster across each other and that might improve the trigger pull weight ? add a set of JP spring you (might) have what your look for. (Lock time to me) would be the time it takes the trigger hammer to strike the bolt and reset smoother surface faster lock time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EkuJustice Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 Factory trigger. Add a grip screw that removes pretravel and a set of jp springs. Then take a cutting wheel and cut the hammer hook off to make it a speed hammer and your out like 25 bucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooter115 Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 Factory trigger. Add a grip screw that removes pretravel and a set of jp springs. Then take a cutting wheel and cut the hammer hook off to make it a speed hammer and your out like 25 bucks For a back up gun you don't want to spend a bunch of money on....this is close to what I do $0.39 for the set-screw and $10.99 for the JP springs makes for one slick trigger for less than $12. Worth mentioning that you'll also need to fit the disconnector and safety, so you need to know what you're doing, but it ain't rocket science. I've got this same set-up in my back up gun now and it breaks at just over 3lb. If it didn't have more over-travel than my JP, I'm not sure I would be able to tell the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOOM Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 I'd like to learn more about the benefits of cutting the hook off the back of a Mil-Spec trigger I understand that JP sells a (speed hammer) but is there noticeable difference in the trigger after doing this ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EkuJustice Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 The cutting of the hook does the same thing as the JP speed hammer and it takes a couple min to cut. What it does is make the hammer lighter which means it is moving faster so it makes the trigger reliable with the jp light springs as there isn't always enough oomph to get the heavier hammer moving to set off hard rifle Primers especially on some factory ammo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOOM Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 Thanks EKuJustice . This grip screw did you make it yourself (how), or where did you buy it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EkuJustice Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 http://ar15triggeradjusters.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOOM Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 How much did you cut off your Mil-Spec trigger hammer. Looking at the pictures of JP speed hammer the hook is completely gone. bagdrag picture of a lower parts kit (a few post up) shows some hook left. Which is correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EkuJustice Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 The picture up top is fine to cut off or you can even take a little more off there is no exact amount Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooter115 Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 http://ar15triggeradjusters.com I guess I don't see the advantage of using a $15 bolt over a $0.39 set screw to do the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitoR Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 Maybe a dumb question, but which do you drill and tap for set screw: lower or trigger? What size set screw and tap? Tito Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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